Obama says hes raising minumum wage to 9.00/hr. i think that is a great fuckin idea! | |
krosty User ID: 15571780 United States 02/13/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses. Quoting: krosty it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser. Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom? Godlike Productions is becoming Reactionary Productions. |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27921992 Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses. Quoting: krosty it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser. Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom? Godlike Productions is becoming Reactionary Productions. LOL no one is proposing to pay people NOTHING stop distorting the conversation, commie |
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krosty User ID: 15571780 United States 02/13/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27921992 Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation. Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices. . They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28870983 United States 02/13/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $9 huh.... first off congress has to pass it. this sounds like a speech stunt to me. But lets say this goes into effect. Watch the employer figure out ways to get rid of dead wood and higher people with degrees..... |
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Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama just wants to boost inflation. Skrew the little people and keep himself on top. Hope you like the result. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27921992 Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation. Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices. . They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on. yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18834326 United States 02/13/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17152779 Price inflation is caused by monetary inflation, not by wage inflation. Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices. . They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on. yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right? Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33959065 Argentina 02/13/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065 I think is the right thing to do. What do you think trinity? How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me. Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov): - GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades. - Industrial production rose 107%. - Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales. - It generated more than 5 million jobs. - Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%. - From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos. - From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%. - The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children. - International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million. - Tax revenue grew by almost 700%. - In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%. - In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%. - In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt. - In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina. - In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%. - From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system. - The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America. - From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22151483 United States 02/13/2013 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a good thing, the only problem is the corporations will fire people to make up for the losses. Our economy is stuck in a capitalistic catch22. People don't spend money because they don't get paid enough. The government increases minimum wages to combat that. Then corporations fire people to equalize the wage increase to keep in line with revenue, because god forbid we lose a point this year, even though we have a chance for the potential of 5 more points next year with customers having increased wages. Then we're back at square one, people don't have jobs to spend money, corporations don't hire because no one is spending money. As Admiral Akbar would say, "it's a trap." |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 Cost push inflation, you think employers will eat the labor cost? No, they pass the cost on to the consumer by raising prices. . They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on. yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right? Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything! LOL "school"? what was the last book you read? 3 minutes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18834326 United States 02/13/2013 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065 I think is the right thing to do. What do you think trinity? How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me. Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov): - GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades. - Industrial production rose 107%. - Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales. - It generated more than 5 million jobs. - Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%. - From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos. - From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%. - The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children. - International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million. - Tax revenue grew by almost 700%. - In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%. - In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%. - In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt. - In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina. - In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%. - From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system. - The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America. - From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 02/13/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and as food prices and taxes go up the government employees get raises so that they never feel the increases that the rest of us feel. it is only we who work in the private sector and don't have a taxpayer piggybank to dip into who it hurts... |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: krosty They raise the cost to raise profit. Profit depreciates the value of a currency and the uncontrolled corporate machine grinds on. yea that evil corporate machine most people work in & have their retirements invested in. so evil, all those old people. we should just kill them all with drones right? Shouldn't you be in school, learning SOMETHING? Anything! LOL "school"? what was the last book you read? 3 minutes times up asshole, you have nothing, you think your commie studies at uni prove you know everything. so go one, change the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 United States 02/13/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back when I was a kid in 1980, minimum wage was $3.25. If you were a full-time employee (40 hours per week, 52 weeks a year) your annual salary was $6,968. The average household income was $17,000, so as a ratio the minimum wage earner made about 41% of that average household income. Fast forward to 2012. Minimum wage of $7.25 for a full-time employee meant an annual salary of $15,080. The average household income was $50,000, so the ratio is 30%. Now, we all know that the middle class has been losing ground, but think about the poorest workers - they are losing ground to the middle class even! Some of you have your heads up your butts if you think those people don't deserve a raise. If you made the ratio equal to 1980, the minimum wage should be close to $10. You all bitch about people doing nothing and collecting entitlements, but there isn't much other choice for the untrained worker. Let's at least give them an incentive to work. You gripe about the rich getting richer on your backs but you want to boost yourselves on the backs of our poorest citizens. You are the same as the bankers and corporate CEOs but on a smaller scale - the intent is the identical - and that is to screw the little guy and collect more yourselves. |
TDJ User ID: 32831057 United States 02/13/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems all the people without skills or education think this is their ticket out of poverty. Your real ticket out of poverty is mentioned above, education and/or job skills to back up a good attendance record and good attitude towards work and other employees. People will pay a good employee well because they are hard to find, shitty $9/hr employees are everywhere If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back when I was a kid in 1980, minimum wage was $3.25. If you were a full-time employee (40 hours per week, 52 weeks a year) your annual salary was $6,968. The average household income was $17,000, so as a ratio the minimum wage earner made about 41% of that average household income. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Fast forward to 2012. Minimum wage of $7.25 for a full-time employee meant an annual salary of $15,080. The average household income was $50,000, so the ratio is 30%. Now, we all know that the middle class has been losing ground, but think about the poorest workers - they are losing ground to the middle class even! Some of you have your heads up your butts if you think those people don't deserve a raise. If you made the ratio equal to 1980, the minimum wage should be close to $10. You all bitch about people doing nothing and collecting entitlements, but there isn't much other choice for the untrained worker. Let's at least give them an incentive to work. You gripe about the rich getting richer on your backs but you want to boost yourselves on the backs of our poorest citizens. You are the same as the bankers and corporate CEOs but on a smaller scale - the intent is the identical - and that is to screw the little guy and collect more yourselves. no one is making min wage for ever unless they are seriously disabled. this is a false narrative, that people are routinely struggling to raise families on min wage. most move up, get better jobs |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be a maximum salary along with a minimum salary much higher than a pathetic 9/hr. 9/hr should be what you pencil pushing corporate monekys should be threading up your asses. Quoting: krosty it's something called freedom... free to pay people whatever you want, you stupid dipshit loser. Then paying people nothing is freedom? Disparaging your employees of income to the point that they are unable to provide for themselves is freedom? You must be aware of some really fucking hideous employer. Who is it? Who is this beast who forces his employees to work at gunpoint for slave wages the employees don't agree to? I think I saw her gulag on google. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20115308 United States 02/13/2013 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they will raise gas and groceries to match it... Quoting: Dr. Acula you may be making 9 dollars an hour... but you might as well be making the same as you are now... its an endless cycle of illusion... "yay i make more money! Damn milk costs 8 bucks a gallon now!" plus... 9 bucks an hour means more taxes will come out of your check... pushing you into a higher income bracket than you are now... its a way to fuck you while you cheer it on sick cycle isn't it? |
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DeadBeacon User ID: 28637429 United States 02/13/2013 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065 I think is the right thing to do. What do you think trinity? How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me. Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov): - GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades. - Industrial production rose 107%. - Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales. - It generated more than 5 million jobs. - Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%. - From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos. - From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%. - The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children. - International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million. - Tax revenue grew by almost 700%. - In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%. - In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%. - In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt. - In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina. - In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%. - From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system. - The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America. - From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%. I'll say it again...the markets will determine the fate of of government intervention, not government intervening in the market. Argentina freezes prices to break inflation spiral [link to www.myfoxny.com] .....Polls show Argentines worry most about inflation, which private economists estimate could reach 30 percent this year....... It's comin'. Last Edited by DeadBeacon on 02/13/2013 06:33 PM :Canadian F::State of Texas: "Misunderestimating is only 5/4 th's of the problem"! "Some choose to hear, few decide to listen". "Question what you know and know why you question". "GLP will never be the sane...uhhh...same". "The markets will determine the fate of government intervention, not government intervening in the market". |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no one is making min wage for ever unless they are seriously disabled. this is a false narrative, that people are routinely struggling to raise families on min wage. most move up, get better jobs Quoting: Saxon F Waxon, Esq. Except, you know, Obamaphonies. right, the perpetually dependent. they are in this scenario of being forever controlled by the gov't. it's so sad, but it's nothing we can fight against because they choose it |
Saxon F Waxon, Esq. User ID: 32880403 United States 02/13/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will restart the internal economy of the country. If you give more money to the ones that have less they will buy national food and national machinery. So that will be more work for your people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33959065 I think is the right thing to do. What do you think trinity? How's that workin' out for you in Argentina......sounds pretty socialistic to me. Some numbers from Argentina since 2003 (Kirchner gov): - GDP grew by more than 80%, recording the fastest growth of our in decades. - Industrial production rose 107%. - Argentina was the only Latin American country that exports reprimarizó but, on the contrary, increased to reach the industry in 2011, 34% of total foreign sales. - It generated more than 5 million jobs. - Unemployment declined from 20% to 7%. - From 2003 to late 2012, the salary Minimum Living went from $ 200/mo pesos to $ 2900/mo pesos. - From 2003 to December 2011, poverty per person rose from 54% to 7% and extreme poverty from 28% to 2%. - The Universal Child Allowance reaches almost 4 million of children. - International reserves increased from U.S. $ 9.915 million to 45.000 million. - Tax revenue grew by almost 700%. - In 2002, the total public debt to GDP meant 166% in late 2011 was reduced to 42%. - In 2002, the total public debt held by the private sector, foreign currency relative to GDP was 92% in August 2012 fell to 8.4%. - In 2002, the Debt Total Public, private held, relative to GDP was 124%, in August 2012 is only 12% and is much intra-public sector debt. - In 2002, Argentina was $ 2,250 each, in August 2012 we have $ 962, the decline has been more than 50% of the per capita debt in Argentina. - In 2002, was allocated 22% of tax revenues to pay debt interest, in August 2012, only 6%. - From 2003 to August 2012, retirees more than doubled, went from 3.5 to 7.11 million people covered by the insurance system. - The pension coverage rate is 95.1%, the highest rate throughout Latin America. - From 2003 to August 2012, increasing the minimum pension was 1254%. I'll say it again...the markets will determine the fate of of government intervention, not government intervening in the market. Argentina freezes prices to break inflation spiral [link to www.myfoxny.com] .....Polls show Argentines worry most about inflation, which private economists estimate could reach 30 percent this year....... It's comin'. you're trusting gov't estimates from a gov't media? mmkay... just checkin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33850789 United States 02/13/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AUSTRALIA MINIMUM WAGE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32851975 For junior employees, the minimum rates are: Under 16 years of age $5.87 At 16 years of age $7.55 At 17 years of age $9.22 At 18 years of age $10.90 At 19 years of age $13.17 At 20 years of age $15.59. For apprentices, the rates are: Year 1 of apprenticeship $10.22 Year 2 of apprenticeship $12.08 Year 3 of apprenticeship $14.87 Year 4 of apprenticeship $17.65. . |