The Most Bizarre "Love Police" video I have seen. Some help interpreting? | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/20/2013 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he is an attention whore. Also, if this guy is a Rockefeller, why doesn't his suit fit? Quoting: Kirk Yeah, and I think it's supposed to be satirical. I found it disturbing.. but I guess that was supposed to be the point. Confusing. The best part for sure is the poet. But the mindf*&k is pretty good too. |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember when i found out about veitch, i was so dissapointed. But i dont care really, some of the messages done by the love police are awesome and true. If you just ignore the bullshit =) Last Edited by DontBeAfraidEVER on 02/23/2013 08:16 PM |
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DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is a nothing. He went public and is in agreement with the official government version of 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35030980 Since that moment he became just another sheep. They created a great message, and then they threw in some hate in between it, then they fucked it up all on purpose. Why? To destroy the message =) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is a nothing. He went public and is in agreement with the official government version of 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35030980 Since that moment he became just another sheep. They created a great message, and then they threw in some hate in between it, then they fucked it up all on purpose. Why? To destroy the message =) I might be naive, but I wonder if he is not just some guy who sometimes has great ideas and syntheses, while at other times he is himself misled. But I agree that often what he posts stands in contrast to what the message of The Love Police is supposed to be. |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is a nothing. He went public and is in agreement with the official government version of 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35030980 Since that moment he became just another sheep. They created a great message, and then they threw in some hate in between it, then they fucked it up all on purpose. Why? To destroy the message =) I might be naive, but I wonder if he is not just some guy who sometimes has great ideas and syntheses, while at other times he is himself misled. But I agree that often what he posts stands in contrast to what the message of The Love Police is supposed to be. Seen this? |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is a nothing. He went public and is in agreement with the official government version of 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35030980 Since that moment he became just another sheep. They created a great message, and then they threw in some hate in between it, then they fucked it up all on purpose. Why? To destroy the message =) I might be naive, but I wonder if he is not just some guy who sometimes has great ideas and syntheses, while at other times he is himself misled. But I agree that often what he posts stands in contrast to what the message of The Love Police is supposed to be. Seen this? Hes talking about this: |
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watchZEITGEISTnow User ID: 33840862 Australia 02/23/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was never the same after his g20 Canadian experience... NASA Moon - Mars - Saturn ANOMALIES: [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NP. Yes I had seen those. If his story is authentic, he clearly tended to think very selfishly and with a closed-mind when that happened. Ive heard him talk about it saying that those experiences contributed to his change in profession, 'awakening' etc. I've been trying to figure out whether he is authentic or not. Sometimes I think he is just a dude trying to figure things out and share what he learns. Other times, I'm not so sure of the motivation... which is why I had asked for help with the interpretation :) You think he's paid to deceive? |
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DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NP. Yes I had seen those. If his story is authentic, he clearly tended to think very selfishly and with a closed-mind when that happened. Ive heard him talk about it saying that those experiences contributed to his change in profession, 'awakening' etc. I've been trying to figure out whether he is authentic or not. Sometimes I think he is just a dude trying to figure things out and share what he learns. Other times, I'm not so sure of the motivation... which is why I had asked for help with the interpretation :) You think he's paid to deceive? Ive also seen the explanation videos, i think i saw pretty much all of it a few years ago. That story went back and forward, round and round, and then i just said fuck it :P I dont really know what to belive =) Ive gotten so used to this, to all these confusing storys, ive just accepted to learn what i want to learn and just leave the rest. Its an interesting and thoughtprovoking story, and i wouldnt refuse to know the truth, i sense that something is fishy but i dont know what it is :P |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive also seen the explanation videos, i think i saw pretty much all of it a few years ago. That story went back and forward, round and round, and then i just said fuck it :P Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER I dont really know what to belive =) Ive gotten so used to this, to all these confusing storys, ive just accepted to learn what i want to learn and just leave the rest. Its an interesting and thoughtprovoking story, and i wouldnt refuse to know the truth, i sense that something is fishy but i dont know what it is :P I do like the thought-provokingness, so just 'try' to keep an open, but critical, mind about it. ;) |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive also seen the explanation videos, i think i saw pretty much all of it a few years ago. That story went back and forward, round and round, and then i just said fuck it :P Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER I dont really know what to belive =) Ive gotten so used to this, to all these confusing storys, ive just accepted to learn what i want to learn and just leave the rest. Its an interesting and thoughtprovoking story, and i wouldnt refuse to know the truth, i sense that something is fishy but i dont know what it is :P I do like the thought-provokingness, so just 'try' to keep and open, but critical, mind about it. ;) Ive actually started to rethink a lot of stories lately, and by stories i mean these conspiracys that i say i NEVER EVER browse anymore ^^ Anyways haha, i just feel sometimes that theres a hidden meaning behind much of it. That we have help, and lots of it, which we dont understand. I belive some people create hate on purpose, to make people think this world is totally crazy, but they do it because they want you to wake up and see how bad it really has become. I belive SOME of the bad things posted here is actually intended as help. I cant really point out any specific story, i just feel it, if you know what i mean hehe =) Its a vague vague feeling i have. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive actually started to rethink a lot of stories lately, and by stories i mean these conspiracys that i say i NEVER EVER browse anymore ^^ Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER Anyways haha, i just feel sometimes that theres a hidden meaning behind much of it. That we have help, and lots of it, which we dont understand. I belive some people create hate on purpose, to make people think this world is totally crazy, but they do it because they want you to wake up and see how bad it really has become. I belive SOME of the bad things posted here is actually intended as help. I cant really point out any specific story, i just feel it, if you know what i mean hehe =) Its a vague vague feeling i have. I know what you mean. I think a lot of conspiracies have metaphorical roots. Some of the connections they help us make are useful, while others can be misleading. Hard to know where to draw the line sometimes. I'm not sure to what degree the problems we face are a consequence of 'intention' per se. I think a lot of the people in powerful places aren't very well informed/are severely misled. And I think it might be a self-propagating consequence of the way the political/financial systems are designed. These feelings translate to questions about just how deep the rabbit hole goes? :) |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/23/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive actually started to rethink a lot of stories lately, and by stories i mean these conspiracys that i say i NEVER EVER browse anymore ^^ Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER Anyways haha, i just feel sometimes that theres a hidden meaning behind much of it. That we have help, and lots of it, which we dont understand. I belive some people create hate on purpose, to make people think this world is totally crazy, but they do it because they want you to wake up and see how bad it really has become. I belive SOME of the bad things posted here is actually intended as help. I cant really point out any specific story, i just feel it, if you know what i mean hehe =) Its a vague vague feeling i have. I know what you mean. I think a lot of conspiracies have metaphorical roots. Some of the connections they help us make are useful, while others can be misleading. Hard to know where to draw the line sometimes. I'm not sure to what degree the problems we face are a consequence of 'intention' per se. I think a lot of the people in powerful places aren't very well informed/are severely misled. And I think it might be a self-propagating consequence of the way the political/financial systems are designed. I think these feelings translate to questions about just how deep the rabbit hole goes? :) Yes what we are talking about now is a part of the rabbit hole ^^ You can interpret things in so many ways its almost scary. In fact i tried to ressonate with some of what you said, but i went down the rabbithole, and i saw that i would never get finished! So i deleted it :P Its why its called the rabbit hole =) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34327655 United Kingdom 02/23/2013 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I couldn't give 2 shits about Veitch despite living just down the road from the guy. He's just as paranoid and nuts as anyone else out there who is deep into the conspiracy world (despite him doing a stockholm syndrome stunt on the 9/11 programme). I wish the guy the best whatever he does, but i've never funded his ideaologies nor supported. Just watched the video's to see if the guy has truly woken up to self-enlightenment yet. His newest version of Damian suggests not. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes what we are talking about now is a part of the rabbit hole ^^ You can interpret things in so many ways its almost scary. Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER In fact i tried to ressonate with some of what you said, but i went down the rabbithole, and i saw that i would never get finished! So i deleted it :P Its why its called the rabbit hole =) Can't be scared of the rabbit hole - but we do need to be sure to approach it well-equipped, and use the right tools to probe. (it is funny where this thread has wandered) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/23/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I couldn't give 2 shits about Veitch despite living just down the road from the guy. He's just as paranoid and nuts as anyone else out there who is deep into the conspiracy world (despite him doing a stockholm syndrome stunt on the 9/11 programme). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34327655 I wish the guy the best whatever he does, but i've never funded his ideaologies nor supported. Just watched the video's to see if the guy has truly woken up to self-enlightenment yet. His newest version of Damian suggests not. Appreciate the feedback. Re. 911: he shares his more recent views here: Its a long interview, but basically he says that he admits to not knowing what really went down. That he thinks there was some foul play but does not know the extent of it. I think the self-exploration/quest for self-enlightenment part interests me a great deal too - watching how his outlooks/opinions change, and are influenced over time. Sometimes I really disagree with the sentiments, but other times his comments spark me to think about something in a new way. And I do enjoy the street commentaries (when they are considerate). |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/24/2013 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes what we are talking about now is a part of the rabbit hole ^^ You can interpret things in so many ways its almost scary. Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER In fact i tried to ressonate with some of what you said, but i went down the rabbithole, and i saw that i would never get finished! So i deleted it :P Its why its called the rabbit hole =) Can't be scared of the rabbit hole - but we do need to be sure to approach it well-equipped, and use the right tools to probe. (it is funny where this thread has wandered) Im not scared of the rabbit hole, i love the rabbit hole =) I can tell you that ive problably used about 5000 hours on reading conspiracys, before i woke up to how stupid it was =) So i know a lot about this world, more than most i think. People tend to think i know nothing but love. I have my opinions about the rabbit hole, but its so large, and i could explain it if i wanted, but i would have to write 10 pages to connect the dots i would want to connect =) And in a way ive just accepted this world as crazy, i dont know to need every reason why and how. Ive spent so much time on that, and it has given me very little =) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/24/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not scared of the rabbit hole, i love the rabbit hole =) Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER I can tell you that ive problably used about 5000 hours on reading conspiracys, before i woke up to how stupid it was =) So i know a lot about this world, more than most i think. People tend to think i know nothing but love. I have my opinions about the rabbit hole, but its so large, and i could explain it if i wanted, but i would have to write 10 pages to connect the dots i would want to connect =) And in a way ive just accepted this world as crazy, i dont know to need every reason why and how. Ive spent so much time on that, and it has given me very little =) Good advice. I don't believe in most conspiracies (I don't see evidence for most). Though they are interesting because they show what people are afraid of, how dis-empowered they feel, and how they desperate they can be for a comfortable explanation - even when the explanation lacks any real evidence. So I find them most interesting because they are telling about what people think and believe, and give you insights into what drives, and what controls people - there are some pretty wild belief systems out there. I do think there are power dynamics/structures I am not well educated about, and though I recognize I won't likely ever have the answers I seek, I do think it's empowering to assimilate information/opinions (somewhat validated ones). For example, I think in order to reverse some of the damaging societal customs, we have to understand their roots, how they came to be, in order to implement the changes we need. Social injustices and environmental degradation are important issues to me, and sometimes to learn more about the problems and solutions we have to dig into non-mainstream explanations. |
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DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/25/2013 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good advice. I don't believe in most conspiracies (I don't see evidence for most). Though they are interesting because they show what people are afraid of, how dis-empowered they feel, and how they desperate they can be for a comfortable explanation - even when the explanation lacks any real evidence. So I find them most interesting because they are telling about what people think and believe, and give you insights into what drives, and what controls people - there are some pretty wild belief systems out there. Quoting: Parabola I do think there are power dynamics/structures I am not well educated about, and though I recognize I won't likely ever have the answers I seek, I do think it's empowering to assimilate information/opinions (somewhat validated ones). For example, I think in order to reverse some of the damaging societal customs, we have to understand their roots, how they came to be, in order to implement the changes we need. Social injustices and environmental degradation are important issues to me, and sometimes to learn more about the problems and solutions we have to dig into non-mainstream explanations. I dont look at it quite the way you do =) I dont look at actual incidents and judge them one by one. I try to make myself a picture of this world, its people, as a whole. Why is this movement so big? What has happend to this society to make movements like this an actual thing. Why are people demonstrating all over europe? Why are people dying of hunger all over the world? Why do we steal the resources from the poor (africa an other poor countrys) and take the profit for ourselves. Why is child labour still such a big present in this world? Whats happening with the health of this population? Whats happening with all the wars? Whats happening on the enviromental issues in this world? I think you get my point =) I see this world as whole, i dont need evidence for single accidents =) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/25/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont look at it quite the way you do =) Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER I dont look at actual incidents and judge them one by one. I try to make myself a picture of this world, its people, as a whole. Why is this movement so big? What has happend to this society to make movements like this an actual thing. Why are people demonstrating all over europe? Why are people dying of hunger all over the world? Why do we steal the resources from the poor (africa an other poor countrys) and take the profit for ourselves. Why is child labour still such a big present in this world? Whats happening with the health of this population? Whats happening with all the wars? Whats happening on the enviromental issues in this world? I think you get my point =) I see this world as whole, i dont need evidence for single accidents =) Good questions, all of them. The pieces make up the whole, sure. But I don't really get the point you are trying to make in the above post? |
DontBeAfraidEVER User ID: 30524368 Norway 02/25/2013 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont look at it quite the way you do =) Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER I dont look at actual incidents and judge them one by one. I try to make myself a picture of this world, its people, as a whole. Why is this movement so big? What has happend to this society to make movements like this an actual thing. Why are people demonstrating all over europe? Why are people dying of hunger all over the world? Why do we steal the resources from the poor (africa an other poor countrys) and take the profit for ourselves. Why is child labour still such a big present in this world? Whats happening with the health of this population? Whats happening with all the wars? Whats happening on the enviromental issues in this world? I think you get my point =) I see this world as whole, i dont need evidence for single accidents =) Good questions, all of them. The pieces make up the whole, sure. But I don't really get the point you are trying to make in the above post? About the rabbit hole? Maybe we where talking about different rabbit holes hehe. The rabbit hole i was talking about is this worlds rabbithole. I dont mean how its made up, and who we are and where we came from. Im more talking about whats going on in the world, and the millions of perceptions of it. I have my own perception of it, a kind of a rabbithole, because its so deep, so many aspects that has to be taken into consideration. Therefore if i ever wanted to put it down on paper, i would problably write forever =) Ive accepted i will never know the full truth of it, because there are too many truths to compress into one truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29311787 Canada 02/25/2013 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About the rabbit hole? Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER Maybe we where talking about different rabbit holes hehe. The rabbit hole i was talking about is this worlds rabbithole. I dont mean how its made up, and who we are and where we came from. Im more talking about whats going on in the world, and the millions of perceptions of it. I have my own perception of it, a kind of a rabbithole, because its so deep, so many aspects that has to be taken into consideration. Therefore if i ever wanted to put it down on paper, i would problably write forever =) Ive accepted i will never know the full truth of it, because there are too many truths to compress into one truth. The rabbithole is multidimensional. I like to poke it with a stick |