BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths | |
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prodlikegod User ID: 5301647 United Kingdom 04/27/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths The H7N9 virus has mutations that mean that it spreads from birds to humans more easily than does H5N1. Proximity between bird and mammal populations could also give the virus opportunities for further adaptation to mammals, including humans. An international team of researchers compiled maps for Nature showing the population densities of chickens, pigs, ducks and humans in many parts of China and throughout Asia. They calculate that 131 million people, 241 million domestic chickens, 47 million domestic ducks and 22 million pigs live within a 50-kilometre radius of each of the 60 H7N9 human cases that had occurred up to 16 April. [link to www.nature.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36553837 United States 04/27/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers. By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/27/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths The H7N9 virus has mutations that mean that it spreads from birds to humans more easily than does H5N1. Proximity between bird and mammal populations could also give the virus opportunities for further adaptation to mammals, including humans. An international team of researchers compiled maps for Quoting: prodlikegod Nature showing the population densities of chickens, pigs, ducks and humans in many parts of China and throughout Asia. They calculate that 131 million people, 241 million domestic chickens, 47 million domestic ducks and 22 million pigs live within a 50-kilometre radius of each of the 60 H7N9 human cases that had occurred up to 16 April. [link to www.nature.com] Great find, thanks for this post! |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/27/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36553837 By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany. The lack of updates is alarming, agreed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/27/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36553837 By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany. My answer to your question would be yes, I think it is worrisome, haven't heard a thing about either story.??? |
prodlikegod User ID: 5301647 United Kingdom 04/27/2013 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I am very surprised that there has been no mention of testing mice or rats. Hantavirus is passed by inhaling dried mouse droppings. The black plague was spread by fleas, infesting rats. If you have an open market, then you definitely have rodents. You will also have chicken fleas, which can infest dogs, cats, people etc. The connection may be the open markets, but the vector my be rodents or fleas. It would not take too many rodents, nibbling on infected poultry, to enable a species crossover. The same for pigs. Chinese farmers feed just about anything to their pigs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there have been many cases of people feeding dead birds to their pigs. Kinda makes you wonder about the mammalian adaptation, and the many carcases floating down the rivers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36553837 By the way, does anyone else think its a bit worrisome, that Taiwan has not released an update for the 3 health care workers? Then again, the same goes for the mystery flu in Germany. Yes they cannot keep the lid on this for too long, can they? Can't find any info on the German policeman at all. Which makes it look like a cover up. |
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Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/27/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths [link to crofsblogs.typepad.com] H7N9, Guangdong: Poultry suspected to be positive for new birdflu virus At present, the batch of poultry no clinical symptoms. Yet found infection. Dongguan is a big city sprawling between Guangzhou to the north and Shenzhen (just north of Hong Kong) on the south. I recall it as mostly farmland and small towns in 1983, but clearly times have changed. And if H7N9 is confirmed in animals there, Hong Kong will be going to battle stations. |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/27/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths My apologies if this is not new, I may be losing track. But I'm pretty sure it is. [link to english.ruvr.ru] H7N9 bird flu spreads to central China's Hunan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/28/2013 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths [link to crofsblogs.typepad.com] Quoting: Vic-chick13 H7N9, Guangdong: Poultry suspected to be positive for new birdflu virus At present, the batch of poultry no clinical symptoms. Yet found infection. Dongguan is a big city sprawling between Guangzhou to the north and Shenzhen (just north of Hong Kong) on the south. I recall it as mostly farmland and small towns in 1983, but clearly times have changed. And if H7N9 is confirmed in animals there, Hong Kong will be going to battle stations. This is a sad find Vic-chick13, what IHave been dreading, the most populated province in China, I think, this is bad bad bad! |
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novamom User ID: 36691611 United States 04/28/2013 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading. Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus. [link to afludiary.blogspot.ca] Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it? |
Snuffielover User ID: 22962224 Russia 04/28/2013 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Going to somewhat repeat my post here as well. With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert. They are also contesting some islands and whatnot. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
x0boxMega720 User ID: 38361861 United States 04/28/2013 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths "B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say? W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way." [link to projectcamelot.org] |
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prodlikegod User ID: 38702859 Ireland 04/28/2013 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading. Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus. [link to afludiary.blogspot.ca] Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it? People who we're vaccinated |
prodlikegod User ID: 39004332 Ireland 04/28/2013 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Going to somewhat repeat my post here as well. Quoting: Snuffielover With the recent H7N9 virus being utterly deadly news, the empty cities in the Chinese desert. They are also contesting some islands and whatnot. I am starting to think China will screen their population for the virus and ship off those not infected to places farthest away and give them a chance of survival someplace isolated. Just something that clicked in my mind as I was reading the forum today. I am not usually big on conspiracy theories at all. Could be You know one of those towns they built was modelled on a town like mine, I think they are going to use them for propaganda videos for when they take over the world... But that is just my theory. |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/28/2013 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I think this virus is well on it's way, Hong Kong viral soup will give this virus plenty of chances to mutate some more. poor people... Quoting: SpiderJones I know, I think so too. I wish they would hurry up and figure out how the damn chickens are getting it. So far no poultry farms have tested positive, just birds from the markets. I saw on Tandyms OBE thread someone had posted that Ed Dames said in a recent interview that he was concerned with a global pandemic, and that H7N9 might fit the bill!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37669817 Canada 04/28/2013 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths China reported 10 more cases of the H7N9 avian influenza since early Friday, bringing the total number to 122 including 24 deaths, according to data compiled by Bloomberg and the official Xinhua News Agency. The central province of Hunan confirmed its first case yesterday, while eastern Jiangxi added three more for a total of five, according to Xinhua. [link to www.bloomberg.com] noticing different numbers of cases from different sources now. They are starting to pile up more quickly and it seems an accurate number is going to be hard to come by. |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/28/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Interesting read, I found this part ringing familiar. Quoting: x0boxMega720 "B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say? W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way." [link to projectcamelot.org] Hmmmm, that is interesting. Especially considering this virus seems to be targeting older men more so than any other group so far. |
talkstory User ID: 39005466 Thailand 04/28/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Interesting read, I found this part ringing familiar. Quoting: x0boxMega720 "B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reduction plan? What did they say? W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and it would spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it will attack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not a geneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way." [link to projectcamelot.org] Hmmmm, that is interesting. Especially considering this virus seems to be targeting older men more so than any other group so far. I was noticing that also and I find it interesting that due to China's one child policy, many of the Chinese have opted to keep a boy child. So it would seem that China has an over abundance of males. Interesting fit if you ask me. co-inkydink, I doubt it. But then again maybe its because there is far more men than women that we are seeing more men afflicted. Last Edited by talkstory on 04/28/2013 09:30 AM talkstory |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/28/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Three more H7N9 bird flu cases were confirmed Sunday in east China's Zhejiang and Jiangxi Provinces, according to local authorities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/28/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths Yes thats right here is some info on your question, read the full article interesting reading. Original Antigenic Sin was coined in 1960 by Thomas Francis, Jr. in the article On the Doctrine of Original Antigenic Sin) that postulates that when the body’s immune system is exposed to and develops an immunological memory to one virus, it may be less able to mount a defense against a subsequent exposure to a second slightly different version of the virus. [link to afludiary.blogspot.ca] Does that mean people who were vaccinated or only the people who actually had it? Both, both create antibodies which recognise the virus filled cell as an invader. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/28/2013 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths I think this virus is well on it's way, Hong Kong viral soup will give this virus plenty of chances to mutate some more. poor people... Quoting: SpiderJones I know, I think so too. I wish they would hurry up and figure out how the damn chickens are getting it. So far no poultry farms have tested positive, just birds from the markets. I saw on Tandyms OBE thread someone had posted that Ed Dames said in a recent interview that he was concerned with a global pandemic, and that H7N9 might fit the bill!! They keep mentioning the fact that people and birds test negative during certian windows of exposure- like between 4-6 days after exposure, is neg. result, and neg. blood tests, etc. this is worrisome because they may be getting a lot of false negs. People are ill, but test neg. for a while- very weird virus. They also got neg results from throat swabs, but when they went deeper into the resp. system, got positive results. The people doing the testing do not look like professionals to me, look at the pix of testers, and others handeling chickens. They should be in full bio- hazard gear, and often are not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 04/28/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths [link to news.xinhuanet.com] Quoting: Vic-chick13 BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Three more H7N9 bird flu cases were confirmed Sunday in east China's Zhejiang and Jiangxi Provinces, according to local authorities. Hi Vic-chick13, hear any more re: Guangdong province? |
Vic-chick13 User ID: 38933518 Canada 04/28/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING UPDATE August 11, 2015 / 591 cases / 300 deaths from H7N9 . MERS CoV 1352 Cases, 479 deaths [link to news.xinhuanet.com] Quoting: Vic-chick13 BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Three more H7N9 bird flu cases were confirmed Sunday in east China's Zhejiang and Jiangxi Provinces, according to local authorities. Hi Vic-chick13, hear any more re: Guangdong province? Not yet, keeping an eye out though! |