Are the Shriners a front for an Islamic illuminati group? | |
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K.Kool (OP) User ID: 41986937 Australia 06/19/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any Shriners here, who can talk about the oath? "“By the existence of Allah and the creed of Mohammed; by the legendary sanctity of our Tabernacle at Mecca, we greet you.” The inductees then swear on the Bible and the Koran, in the name of Mohammed, and invoke Masonry's usual gruesome penalties upon themselves: “I do hereby, upon this Bible, and on the mysterious legend of the Koran, and its dedication to the Mohammedan faith, promise and swear and vow … that I will never reveal any secret part or portion whatsoever of the ceremonies … and now upon this sacred book, by the sincerity of a Moslem's oath I here register this irrevocable vow … in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to the center with a three-edged blade, my feet flayed and I be forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the Red Sea until the flaming sun shall strike me with livid plague, and may Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same. Amen. Amen. Amen." [link to crossbearer-brian.tripod.com] |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 41986937 Australia 06/19/2013 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Estimates from available records also show that Shrine hospitals in 1984 received just 1 percent, or $182,000, of an estimated $17.5 million in profits from about 175 Shrine circuses. Only one of the 76 temples for which IRS records were available reported contributing any circus money to the hospital system. The most recent year for which IRS records for the Shrine fraternity were available was 1984." [link to pqasb.pqarchiver.com] |
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Archaic Mason User ID: 22321839 United States 06/20/2013 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Sorry. The Shriners do a lot for disabled children, more than most private groups. I know many, and none are islamic. And no, they are not associated with the "illuminati." -- Archaic Mason 2B1ASK1 "Meet on the level, part on the square." Initiated: January 12th, 2011 Passed: February 8th, 2011 Raised: March 8th, 2011 Tall Cedars of Lebanon Initiated: June 25th, 2011 Y.O.L.O. You Only Live Once DON'T BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT! |
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Archaic Mason User ID: 22321839 United States 06/20/2013 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Sorry. Quoting: Archaic Mason The Shriners do a lot for disabled children, more than most private groups. I know many, and none are islamic. And no, they are not associated with the "illuminati." So, their supposed oath, is a bit like the one attributed to the Jesuits? (i.e, totally fabricated?) I don't know their oaths, nor the Jesuits you speak of. But I mean, it's not like they got it from god himself, so fabricated in the sense of being created by man, then yes. -- Archaic Mason 2B1ASK1 "Meet on the level, part on the square." Initiated: January 12th, 2011 Passed: February 8th, 2011 Raised: March 8th, 2011 Tall Cedars of Lebanon Initiated: June 25th, 2011 Y.O.L.O. You Only Live Once DON'T BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT! |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 25677804 Australia 06/20/2013 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Sorry. Quoting: Archaic Mason The Shriners do a lot for disabled children, more than most private groups. I know many, and none are islamic. And no, they are not associated with the "illuminati." So, their supposed oath, is a bit like the one attributed to the Jesuits? (i.e, totally fabricated?) I don't know their oaths, nor the Jesuits you speak of. But I mean, it's not like they got it from god himself, so fabricated in the sense of being created by man, then yes. Well, the freemasons take an oath, a real one. Do the Shriners take another oath, besides the freemason one? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41669328 United States 06/20/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | templars ==> masons Started in egypt about 1190AD, with their first brick (un)laying operation at the pyramids. they come from the most deceptive creatures to crawl around and drool on the earth in the mid east, after they decided to "move in", lying, greedy deceptive, rotten, with zero morals and absolute paranoid control freaks and no they don't wear rags on their heads.. they love gold, ruby, silver and all those shiny things. |
^Isaac^ User ID: 36815038 United States 06/20/2013 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds evil to me. |
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K.Kool (OP) User ID: 29271332 Australia 06/20/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they are evil, they have been very successful in hiding it, even from the majority of their members, I suspect. That has been the strength of the freemasons, the oaths to keep secrets and unquestioning loyalty to the higher degree orders. Could the Shriners be the ones giving the orders? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41562686 Lithuania 06/20/2013 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, also commonly known as Shriners and abbreviated A.A.O.N.M.S., established in 1870, is an appendant body to Freemasonry. In 2010, the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, as well as Shriners North America, changed its name to Shriners International, now covering nearly 200 temples (chapters) across North America, South America, Europe and Southeast Asia.[1] The organization is best known for the Shriners Hospitals for Children it administers, and the red fezzes that members wear. The organization is headquartered in Tampa, Florida.[2] Shriners International describes itself as a fraternity based on fun, fellowship and the Masonic principles of brotherly love, relief and truth. There are approximately 340,000 members from 195 temples (chapters) in the U.S., Canada, Brazil, Mexico, the Republic of Panama, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Europe and Australia. On July 6, 2011, Shriners International commissioned Emirat Shriners of Heidelberg, Germany, as its 194th temple, and took the first steps toward forming a new temple in Mindanao, Philippines.[3] Eventually on July 3, 2012, Agila Shriners of Mindanao, Philippines was chartered as the 195th temple. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 29271332 Australia 06/20/2013 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, also commonly known as Shriners and abbreviated A.A.O.N.M.S., established in 1870, is an appendant body to Freemasonry. In 2010, the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, as well as Shriners North America, changed its name to Shriners International, now covering nearly 200 temples (chapters) across North America, South America, Europe and Southeast Asia.[1] The organization is best known for the Shriners Hospitals for Children it administers, and the red fezzes that members wear. The organization is headquartered in Tampa, Florida.[2] Shriners International describes itself as a fraternity based on fun, fellowship and the Masonic principles of brotherly love, relief and truth. There are approximately 340,000 members from 195 temples (chapters) in the U.S., Canada, Brazil, Mexico, the Republic of Panama, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Europe and Australia. On July 6, 2011, Shriners International commissioned Emirat Shriners of Heidelberg, Germany, as its 194th temple, and took the first steps toward forming a new temple in Mindanao, Philippines.[3] Eventually on July 3, 2012, Agila Shriners of Mindanao, Philippines was chartered as the 195th temple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41562686 [link to en.wikipedia.org] It bothers me, this 'Arabic' thing, I would love to know if they do take an oath on the Qur'an? Usually, in my GLP battles with the masons, they swarm all over it, debating and attacking.. why not now, that I mention the Shriners? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42053194 United States 06/20/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Masonic conspiracies. Imagining a bunch of harmless elderly guys wearing a fez and wringing their hands as they plot world domination is just such fun imagery :) I don't want to join the Masonic mafia because the reality is too boring and typical. The speculation is so entertaining ^_^ |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 24121708 Australia 06/21/2013 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Masonic conspiracies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42053194 Imagining a bunch of harmless elderly guys wearing a fez and wringing their hands as they plot world domination is just such fun imagery :) I don't want to join the Masonic mafia because the reality is too boring and typical. The speculation is so entertaining ^_^ You're only succeeding in making me more suspicious. Such lengths they've gone to, with this public image you describe so well.. |
CYRIL User ID: 42052465 Australia 06/21/2013 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Free Masons are good people who do a lot of good works for society and for the elderly. they provide their time and expertise and business acumen for free. they build and run nursing homes and retirement villages for the elderly. absolutely nothing sinister about them. totally philanthropic and profligates. in fact the reason they call themselves Free Masons is because they started off laying bricks to charity buildings for Free...hence the name FreeMasons |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 25111101 Australia 06/21/2013 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Free Masons are good people who do a lot of good works for society and for the elderly. Quoting: CYRIL 42052465 they provide their time and expertise and business acumen for free. they build and run nursing homes and retirement villages for the elderly. absolutely nothing sinister about them. totally philanthropic and profligates. in fact the reason they call themselves Free Masons is because they started off laying bricks to charity buildings for Free...hence the name FreeMasons "New English Dictionary of the Philological Society" (Oxford, 1898) favours the interpretation of freemasons as skilled artisans, emancipated according to the medieval practice from the restrictions and control of local guilds in order that they might be able to travel and render services, wherever any great building (cathedral, etc.) was in process of construction. These freemasons formed a universal craft for themselves, with a system of secret signs and passwords by which a craftsman, who had been admitted on giving evidence of competent skill, could be recognized. On the decline of Gothic architecture this craft coalesced with the mason guilds." [link to www.newadvent.org] I think many of the 'foot-soldiers' are as you say, with no idea of the political machinations their masters use them for. |
^Isaac^ User ID: 36815038 United States 06/21/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Masonic conspiracies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42053194 Imagining a bunch of harmless elderly guys wearing a fez and wringing their hands as they plot world domination is just such fun imagery :) I don't want to join the Masonic mafia because the reality is too boring and typical. The speculation is so entertaining ^_^ You won't believe what I saw yesterday while strolling down venice beach. I saw a huge square and compass right in the middle of the beach!!!! They even own the beach!!! |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 25111101 Australia 06/21/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love Masonic conspiracies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42053194 Imagining a bunch of harmless elderly guys wearing a fez and wringing their hands as they plot world domination is just such fun imagery :) I don't want to join the Masonic mafia because the reality is too boring and typical. The speculation is so entertaining ^_^ You won't believe what I saw yesterday while strolling down venice beach. I saw a huge square and compass right in the middle of the beach!!!! They even own the beach!!! No way! That is truly sacrilege!! The beach belongs to the people now and forever more :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9456281 United States 06/21/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somewhere I have an old manuscript from the shriners and they were praising allah as God. Also swearing on the "Holy" Koran. Seeing as how that satanic book figures prominently with the Shriners, you can make your own judgment. The masons wrap themselves in any religion they can to deceive the useful idiots (blue lodge). Their true purposes are satanic. Their "god" is actually lucifer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9456281 United States 06/21/2013 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Free Masons are good people who do a lot of good works for society and for the elderly. Quoting: CYRIL 42052465 they provide their time and expertise and business acumen for free. they build and run nursing homes and retirement villages for the elderly. absolutely nothing sinister about them. totally philanthropic and profligates. in fact the reason they call themselves Free Masons is because they started off laying bricks to charity buildings for Free...hence the name FreeMasons Jesus spoke of them, they throw their "good works" in His face, and He throws them into the lake of Fire. |
K.Kool (OP) User ID: 25111101 Australia 06/21/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somewhere I have an old manuscript from the shriners Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9456281 and they were praising allah as God. Also swearing on the "Holy" Koran. Seeing as how that satanic book figures prominently with the Shriners, you can make your own judgment. The masons wrap themselves in any religion they can to deceive the useful idiots (blue lodge). Their true purposes are satanic. Their "god" is actually lucifer. Thankyou for sharing this! I've known about the masons perverting religion and faith to serve their own purposes, especially the Catholic, but their use of Islam is a big concern, given that terrorism is linked to it. |
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