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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Don’t Trust Him

 
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The traitors are sitting in the Capitol. They are providing enemies (al qaeda, taliban) with weapons.
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Look at all the Dead Americans murdered by their own government for whistle blowing?

Michael Hastings ?

Terrible Americans!

Perhaps the Free World should start supplying weapons and logistics to US citizens to fight their Evil Regime?
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russia!
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OK, now we know we're just 3rd class partners and we gonna react appropriate.
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ohyeah
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


No they loved Obama because he was bad for the US and they love everything which is anti-American.

Ask anyone of these Europeans how long it will be before they have a black elected leader and they are offended by the suggestion, but it was fine for us.
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

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Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

skull_fing
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
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You are total wrong. We here have always thought you were our friends, Americans were allways very popular in Germany, everything else is a lie.

But now it turns out you're just our minders who want to control us as much as possible in order to absorb everything, in particular technologies.
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

[link to translate.google.de]

Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

skull_fing
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Moved on to what exacly please ?

But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war.
For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways".
We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality.

In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes.
In Germany a life is worth everything.

You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights.
Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding.

No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back.
You guys just need more love.
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The puppets you choose from to install are employees of the owner of the enterprise not the employers sorry.

All the leaders of all the countries are puppets.

The German puppet can blame the American puppet

The new puppet can blame the old puppet.

The wannbe puppet can attack and point out the inevitable failures of the installed puppet attempting to be installed as puppet.

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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


You are total wrong. We here have always thought you were our friends, Americans were allways very popular in Germany, everything else is a lie.

But now it turns out you're just our minders who want to control us as much as possible in order to absorb everything, in particular technologies.
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No, I am not wrong. Your hate for American vomits out of your mouths and across the pond every day. The only difference now is we are aware of it thanks to forums like this and the net...

You damned idiot we are not YOUR minders, we can't even protect ourselves from this shit why would we mind what you are doing?

We didn't turn out hundreds of thousands to worship at the altar of Obama...we begged you not to show him such difference ashe was not worth it. But no, Germans poured into the streets to adore him and made it possible for our media to emphasize how universally loved he was while calling us all names like racist and bigot.

I care about a small section of my people the rest of you can go to hell.
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

[link to translate.google.de]

Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

skull_fing
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Moved on to what exacly please ?

But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war.
For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways".
We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality.

In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes.
In Germany a life is worth everything.

You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights.
Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding.

No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back.
You guys just need more love.
 Quoting: Rawfox


We have moved past you and find you completely irrelevant in what we must do. You are being swallowed whole by your new immigrants and I have not yet figured out whether I care or not.

As for our domestic and cultural traditions they are none of your business lets keep it that way.

You are not my "friend" and that is my choice...

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Many Germans still remember the STASI. I can understand why you would not be pleased with this news.
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Germans loved Obama?

Fooled by yet another leader who promises the world, twice now, Shame on you!
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.

Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
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if that's your opinion then you're the classic case of a brainwashed, re-educated excuse for a german.

germany lost its liberty in 1945. "unified and stable democracy" my ass. next you'll tell us that democracy is the best form of government, and that the people of germany actually decide anything.

I would never claim that Germany is a better country than the U.S., so better stay over there. ;-) But please come for vacations, drink beer and have a fun time!

Anti-semitism you can find throughout Europe, of course even in Germany. Jews have to fear here, certainly much less than Muslims. Basically Germany is no racist society.
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you're right there, today germany is in almost as pitiful a shape as the united states. given a few more years and a few hundred thousand immigrants germany will have the same crime rates and ghettos as the great usa.

of course we welcome all immigrants. come into our fold. this once great nation is already in its death-throes. just make it quick.
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Germans loved Obama?

Fooled by yet another leader who promises the world, twice now, Shame on you!
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Yep You idiots own that. I voted twice against this jack ass.
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

[link to translate.google.de]

Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

skull_fing
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Moved on to what exacly please ?

But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war.
For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways".
We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality.

In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes.
In Germany a life is worth everything.

You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights.
Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding.

No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back.
You guys just need more love.
 Quoting: Rawfox


We have moved past you and find you completely irrelevant in what we must do. You are being swallowed whole by your new immigrants and I have not yet figured out whether I care or not.

As for our domestic and cultural traditions they are none of your business lets keep it that way.

You are not my "friend" and that is my choice...

ratsass10
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Since you wrote this ..
I care about a small section of my people the rest of you can go to hell.
.. i dont care about you anymore.

I wish i could, but in real, it makes me sad.
Looks like many many people need more love.

Last Edited by Rawfox on 07/01/2013 03:09 PM
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.

Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
 Quoting: Niemand


bsflag

Germans still love socialism and worship government (including the EUSSR), and especially those pathetic so called "atheists" who really are statheists.

Germans gave up most of their guns and think the american 2A is evil, that's all you need to know about the brainwashed germans who are all statists/marxists.

Democracy is Socialism!

Just like in America, we have BOTH, a republic AND a democracy. They are not mutually exclusive.

A republic is a self-governing forum of people.

A democracy/government is a legal entity (which can use a TM name like "Republic XY") full of employees etc.
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Germans loved Obama?

Fooled by yet another leader who promises the world, twice now, Shame on you!
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yes he's dearly loved. that's why he made his speech behind a bullet-proof wall and had to be protected by shitloads of security, contrary to the other leader you're referring to, who was loved by his people like no other before or since.
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NEWSFLASH:

ALL major countries have intelligence agencies that 'spy', i.e. collect data and info. The vast majority of what they collect is in the public domain, not exactly state secrets. Most of what they do is about determining what's going on behind the scenes politically, who and what major political figures really are and what they're about, economic data, etc., I know Europeans aren't stupid, so there's no way most are 'shocked'.

======================

People should ask the question why is this coming out now? Why now? The timing isn't accidental. And who and what is Edward Snowden, really? His official bio is so bullshit it's laughable. From a HS drop out who never made it through army basic training, to NSA security guard, to CIA operative in Geneva with diplomatic cover, to NSA contract worker. Who the fuck buys this story?
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Moved on to what exacly please ?

But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war.
For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways".
We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality.

In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes.
In Germany a life is worth everything.

You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights.
Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding.

No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back.
You guys just need more love.
 Quoting: Rawfox


We have moved past you and find you completely irrelevant in what we must do. You are being swallowed whole by your new immigrants and I have not yet figured out whether I care or not.

As for our domestic and cultural traditions they are none of your business lets keep it that way.

You are not my "friend" and that is my choice...

ratsass10
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Since you wrote this ..
I care about a small section of my people the rest of you can go to hell.
.. i dont care about you anymore.

I wish i could, but in real, it makes me sad.
Looks like many many people need more love.
 Quoting: Rawfox


"i dont care about you anymore."

That's the way I want it, thank you...
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

[link to translate.google.de]

Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

skull_fing
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We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Moved on to what exacly please ?

But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war.
For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways".
We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality.

In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes.
In Germany a life is worth everything.

You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights.
Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding.

No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back.
You guys just need more love.
 Quoting: Rawfox


What's this Euro obsession with fast food? I HATE FAST FOOD, including McDonalds, and so do MILLIONS of other Americans. Fast food doesn't define the U.S. or Americans. Most of us eat regular food just like presumably you do.

Neither does stupid pop culture define us. The VAST majority of Americans know perfectly well Hollywood movies are goofy shit, TV shows are fake and lame, 95% of pop 'music' sucks ass.

If these are the only things you know about America, than you don't know America.
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I didn't trust Obama when he held his first speech in Germany and was sure after he got elected in the United States when he kept whispering ‘yes we can’ in a hypnotics way and watched the masses repeating his mantra.
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Obummer practices a form of hypnosis called NLP. It is quite useful. At least 3/4 of the people are easy subjects.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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sad America,

everybody on this planet hates you, even your former friends now. The world has moved and your consciousness is backward like nothing else,

a nation only strong, because of weapons, but at the same time so weak,

your people has no awareness of the needs of this world, only war and hatred, thats America today

what is the difference between Russia, China and the U.S.?

there is simply no difference anymore.
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Well, if the placid Germans are anything to go by, Kiwis are really really PISSED OFF!

The Americans have essentially declared war on everyone by spying on them.
They have subverted democratic nations, screwed with the financial system to bring about its collapse, and now think that every person in the world comes under their laws.

Fuck em!

America couldn't even invade Iraq properly (the English did it in 6 weeks and built schools and hospitals) the Americans brought genocide and destruction - and lost.
They've lost in Afghanistan.

What's going to happen when the fuck everyone off??

They are going to get their balls slice off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


You are delusional. And why do so many Kiwis, Australians and even Canadians still think they're British? Most Brits couldn't pin point NZ on a fucking map if their life depended on it. Most Brits know Canada simply as this huge cold, frozen country north of the U.S. And when they here 'Australia' they think Kangaroos and Mel Gibson. And I'm not saying Americans are any better. Interestingly, for some reason, we get loads of news from Australia, but next to nothing from NZ, and very little from Canada, even though we have a 4000 plus mile border with them. Australia for some reason always gets a lot of press in the U.S.
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sad America,

everybody on this planet hates you, even your former friends now. The world has moved and your consciousness is backward like nothing else,

a nation only strong, because of weapons, but at the same time so weak,

your people has no awareness of the needs of this world, only war and hatred, thats America today

what is the difference between Russia, China and the U.S.?

there is simply no difference anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42649769


The U.S. still has the largest single economy on Earth.

The U.S. is fantastically rich in natural resources, even to the point it will soon overtake Saudi Arabia in oil production and become the world's #1 energy producer.

The U.S. has he 3rd largest population of any country on Earth, only surpassed by India and China.

The U.S. is geographically the 3rd largest nation on Earth

The U.S. has the most potent and capable military on Earth

The death of the U.S. is greatly exaggerated.
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sad America,

everybody on this planet hates you, even your former friends now. The world has moved and your consciousness is backward like nothing else,

a nation only strong, because of weapons, but at the same time so weak,

your people has no awareness of the needs of this world, only war and hatred, thats America today

what is the difference between Russia, China and the U.S.?

there is simply no difference anymore.
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What part of we have lost "nothing" do you not get? You can't lose what you have never had.

Last Edited by deplorable but adorable davvi on 07/01/2013 03:34 PM
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

[link to translate.google.de]

Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42645275


We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too.
 Quoting: davvi


Who are you to speak for all American people?
"Never ours" - oh really this breaks my heart. lmao

Whatever.


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I want to live in the USA of 1950 - the end of the 80s.
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I want to live in the USA of 1950 - the end of the 80s.
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we are not far apart: I want to live in the U.S. in 1960/70/80 San Francisco.
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The traitors are sitting in the Capitol. They are providing enemies (al qaeda, taliban) with weapons.
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^^^THIS^^^

And there is no one to hold them to account. The average American is content to watch television and internet port, talk on their free cell phones, and gorge themselves on burgers and fries.





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