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MHz User ID: 42240933 Canada 07/02/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What was another loser idea of the space industry, oh yeah, mine methane on a moon of Jupiter. Anybody do the math on how much fuel you would use in braking from Jupiter's pull just to land on the moon and then take off and trying to escape from Jupiter's pull (rather than the tiny moon we were supposed to 'visit'? BTW it took 4B years to terraform earth, nobody can wait that wrong, if we head for one in a 'finished state' it will have 'died and gone cold' before we could even get there at full burn. Last Edited by MHz on 07/02/2013 06:26 PM |
Frater User ID: 1193197 United States 07/02/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider: Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS) - New evidence suggests that carbon-based DNA (OUR DNA) actually dates back to over 8 billion years old. - The Earth is only around 4.7 billion years old. - Science's general consensus is that the first unicellular prokaryotic carbon-based forms got to this planet by way of space travel (whether that be planet hopping on asteroids, space floating like "water bears," or wormholes All this information leads us to several close-to-certain conclusions: 1. Our predecessors almost DEFINITELY did NOT start on Earth 2. The prokaryotic carbon-based cells are suited for space travel 3. They either happened randomly upon this planet or we were "seeded" With these safe assumptions, it is logical to assume that these prokaryotic cells are and have been (FOR A LONG TIME) floating around space and landing anywhere that is suited to carbon-based evolution. It happened TWICE just on this planet. One evolution chain on the surface, spawning from photosynthetic unicellular life and one at the bottom of the oceans, spawned from chemosynthetic unicellular things. It is likely that (and this is excluding all the other potential unknown types of life out there, not to mention things that may exist outside of this dimensional plane) there are literally BILLIONS of planets out there supporting chains of life from the same DNA strands that found their way here. Remember, we're talking about a space that (so far as we know) is infinitely expansive. Of course there are unlimited planets that could support extraterrestrial life. In the end it would only be illogical to assume otherwise. They may still be here :) Frater LVX! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42236936 United States 07/02/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, just look at the math. Google the drake equation and you can see clearly that the possibility for life outside our solar system is not only possible, but likely. I have no doubt there is life out there, but, whether they are actively visiting earth, that's a whole other can of worms. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42101210 United Kingdom 07/02/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 60 billion seems to me to be a tiny number considering that there are hundred of billions of galaxies with hundred of billions of stars each. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25050963 If you had read the article it says that the Milky Way alone could host 60 billion habitable planets. The researchers' paper goes on to say '...so now we need loads more dosh to definitively identify these planets...' |
Mango Positive User ID: 1173727 United States 07/02/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New study says "Look how fucking big the universe is... there are billions of planets with life, each of them looking out into the expanse of space and feeling lonely. News at 11:00." 'Faith' is the acknowledgment that you have absolutely no justification for the silly shit you believe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42364242 United States 07/02/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the conditions for life to exist are present, life will exist. If the conditions for life to exist are not present, life will not exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18242403 Simple as that. There is life on Earth because the proper conditions exist. There is no life on the moon because the proper conditions do not exist. There's no such thing as "conditions" for generating life. That is complete sci-fi fantasy. All science confirms the law of biogenesis. Life only follows from life. That leaves the atheist/evolutionist in a sticky situation because his religion tells him life must have magically manifested itself by some nature-defying string of accidents. And sorry, getting atheist High Priest Lawrency Krauss up on stage preaching anti-science sermons about everything coming from nothing, does not quite cut it. Nor does generating some individual part of a cell in a lab or, even better, a computer simulation. You can't fight the science. The origin of life defies any known natural causes, emphatically so. This pseudo-science spontaneous generation across the universe is nothing, NOTHING, but creative sci-fi writing. |
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Knowbody Special User ID: 3753361 United States 07/02/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably there are lots and lots of planets like that. 60 Billion? Why 60? I just luv when they throw around numbers like this without even knowing if the universe is finite or infinite...if it is infinite, this number has no validity. If it is finite, first need to know how large it is,otherwise the estimate is worthless again. Quoting: emerald_glow In lack of those I will vote this They are LIARS. They don't even know, show and tell what is at the bottom of our own planet's oceans, yet they can tell which planets harbor life and which don't and tell us a number in a supposed infinite of potential unknowns. BULLSHIT. How about some detailed pictures of the face and pyramids on Mars before you tell us how some galaxy far, far away might harbor life. Please, more mumbo jumbo from FOOLS who know nothing, wouldn't know a truth if it slapped them in the face. Trying to impress the mindless and clueless sheeple into believing and trusting that they know what they are doing, WHEN CLEARLY THEY DO NOT. Cure the common cold before you worry about a planet light years away. What's the point if the majority will never go there anyways? Fix your own house first. Last Edited by Knowbody Special on 07/02/2013 08:43 PM |
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synchro User ID: 40611 United States 07/02/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success. Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later. All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth. If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows? |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 07/02/2013 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And not ONE SINGLE SIGNAL from ANYWHERE in the universe, except from us. That we can recognize. Save your money and go get a degree in Electrical Engineering. Learn what signals are. Pfttt. Another one dimensional thinker. So pompous....yet so clueless. |
strgzr User ID: 42707012 United States 07/02/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success. Quoting: synchro Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later. All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth. If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows? Yes we “have all our eggs in one basket”. So why would we want to soil another basket? If we can't get to a certain level here on Earth we don't deserve to spread our disfunction elsewhere. :) |
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oLOVEz User ID: 40020654 United States 07/02/2013 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And not ONE SINGLE SIGNAL from ANYWHERE in the universe, except from us. That we can recognize. Save your money and go get a degree in Electrical Engineering. Learn what signals are. If they were using tech the same as ours, or very much similar, we most likely could recognize it... We have no proof or evidence that they do (at least not available to the public). However, it would be very "convenient" if they did. It is naive to believe that what we use is what they would use. What if they have mastered Organic tech... Or Crystal tech... Or (UNKNOWN) tech... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18242403 United States 07/02/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the conditions for life to exist are present, life will exist. If the conditions for life to exist are not present, life will not exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18242403 Simple as that. There is life on Earth because the proper conditions exist. There is no life on the moon because the proper conditions do not exist. There's no such thing as "conditions" for generating life. That is complete sci-fi fantasy. All science confirms the law of biogenesis. Life only follows from life. That leaves the atheist/evolutionist in a sticky situation because his religion tells him life must have magically manifested itself by some nature-defying string of accidents. And sorry, getting atheist High Priest Lawrency Krauss up on stage preaching anti-science sermons about everything coming from nothing, does not quite cut it. Nor does generating some individual part of a cell in a lab or, even better, a computer simulation. You can't fight the science. The origin of life defies any known natural causes, emphatically so. This pseudo-science spontaneous generation across the universe is nothing, NOTHING, but creative sci-fi writing. You're an absolute ignorant fool. You don't have the mental capacity to understand science and how it works. God is cop out for lack of knowledge. Can't explain it? God must have done it! That is until there is nothing left that science can't explain and people like you are left grasping at nothing. Yes, the very nothing that could spark the beginning of a universe. In 10,000 years God will be forgotten thanks to advancements in science. You can think what'd you like; BUT IT'S WRONG. It's a shame you can't understand how wrong and stupid you are. It's because of people like you the world is so fucked up. |
Waterbug User ID: 34388912 United States 07/02/2013 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is fairly ego-centric to believe we are the only life in the universe. Quoting: Waterbug The simple act of a comet impact releasing amino acids is enough for me to determine that. Right... Whatever you got to say to run away from God. I get it. I don't consider science a barrier to knowing a Creator. I believe in God.. Man and organized religion.. not so much. Too many different stories. |
oLOVEz User ID: 40020654 United States 07/02/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is fairly ego-centric to believe we are the only life in the universe. Quoting: Waterbug The simple act of a comet impact releasing amino acids is enough for me to determine that. Right... Whatever you got to say to run away from God. I get it. I don't consider science a barrier to knowing a Creator. I believe in God.. Man and organized religion.. not so much. Too many different stories. "Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind" -Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26284556 United States 07/02/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success. Quoting: synchro Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later. All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth. If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows? At what speed earth moves thru space.......why would not this be a space ship....you in your physical state is a seed........at death you ether fall in good soil or bad soil........yes.....galaxy is a seed spreader. |
Kai D Kravit (VALIS) User ID: 25570375 United States 07/03/2013 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quoting "Knowbody Special": "They are LIARS. They don't even know, show and tell what is at the bottom of our own planet's oceans, yet they can tell which planets harbor life and which don't and tell us a number in a supposed infinite of potential unknowns. BULLSHIT. How about some detailed pictures of the face and pyramids on Mars before you tell us how some galaxy far, far away might harbor life. Please, more mumbo jumbo from FOOLS who know nothing, wouldn't know a truth if it slapped them in the face. Trying to impress the mindless and clueless sheeple into believing and trusting that they know what they are doing, WHEN CLEARLY THEY DO NOT. Cure the common cold before you worry about a planet light years away. What's the point if the majority will never go there anyways? Fix your own house first." :end quote Correction: They don't know about EVERYTHING at the bottom of the oceans. They DO know quite a bit about what's down there. For instance, the hydrothermal vents at the bottom of the Marianas Trench (the deepest spot we've been) houses a number of Xenophyophores, which are ancient prokaryotic, chemosynthetic microorganisms that survive by converting chemicals spewed from the vents into energy. Other more advanced organisms live down there and contribute to this chain by eating such xenophyophores. There is actually another area in the Gulf of Mexico where scientists have observed a whole new layer of super sense saline water below the normal ocean water (a lake under the ocean, if you will). This data goes to show that not only is photosynthesis completely unnecessary for life to exist on earth, it most certainly spawned 2 chains of evolution on just this one planet! Last Edited by Kai D Kravit (VALIS) on 07/03/2013 11:39 AM Kai D Kravit (VALIS) |
AgnosticDeity User ID: 35865412 United States 07/03/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quoting "Knowbody Special": Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS) "They are LIARS. They don't even know, show and tell what is at the bottom of our own planet's oceans, yet they can tell which planets harbor life and which don't and tell us a number in a supposed infinite of potential unknowns. BULLSHIT. How about some detailed pictures of the face and pyramids on Mars before you tell us how some galaxy far, far away might harbor life. Please, more mumbo jumbo from FOOLS who know nothing, wouldn't know a truth if it slapped them in the face. Trying to impress the mindless and clueless sheeple into believing and trusting that they know what they are doing, WHEN CLEARLY THEY DO NOT. Cure the common cold before you worry about a planet light years away. What's the point if the majority will never go there anyways? Fix your own house first." :end quote Correction: They don't know about EVERYTHING at the bottom of the oceans. They DO know quite a bit about what's down there. For instance, the hydrothermal vents at the bottom of the Marianas Trench (the deepest spot we've been) houses a number of Xenophyophores, which are ancient prokaryotic, chemosynthetic microorganisms that survive by converting chemicals spewed from the vents into energy. Other more advanced organisms live down there and contribute to this chain by eating such xenophyophores. There is actually another area in the Gulf of Mexico where scientists have observed a whole new layer of super sense saline water below the normal ocean water (a lake under the ocean, if you will). This data goes to show that not only is photosynthesis completely unnecessary for life to exist on earth, it most certainly spawned 2 chains of evolution on just this one planet! How dare you use things such as logic or evidence in a theological debate!!! You sir should be ashamed of yourself! There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. |
Kai D Kravit (VALIS) User ID: 20625876 United States 07/03/2013 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is yet a third theory which suggests that both of the first two theories were concocted by a wily editor of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in order to increase the levels of universal uncertainty and paranoia and so boost the sales of the guide. This last theory is, of course, the most convincing because The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the only book in the whole of the known universe to have the words "Don't Panic" inscribed in large friendly letters on the cover. Kai D Kravit (VALIS) |
OCD Chaos Theorist User ID: 41459087 United States 07/03/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is yet a third theory which suggests that both of the first two theories were concocted by a wily editor of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in order to increase the levels of universal uncertainty and paranoia and so boost the sales of the guide. This last theory is, of course, the most convincing because The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the only book in the whole of the known universe to have the words "Don't Panic" inscribed in large friendly letters on the cover. Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS) I wish I had more time so I could do even less. |