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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5210162 United States 07/23/2013 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Members of Congress are set to square off over a push to create military chaplains for people who do not believe in God. Quoting: Wylfdane The effort to create a chaplain for atheists and "humanists" has been building over the last several weeks. While the title might sound inherently contradictory, supporters say the point is to give atheists in the military someone who will pro-actively reach out to them and facilitate meetings. Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] No doubt this is a "Black Caucus" wellspring. Dumbass shit from Washington has got to end. "In God We Trust" is not just 4 words. |
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Brandywine84 User ID: 36020080 United States 07/23/2013 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So in other words, they want therapists? Never be in a hurry; do everything quietly and in a calm spirit. Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset. ~Saint Francis de Sales To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha |
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Brandywine84 User ID: 36020080 United States 07/23/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just glad they aren't getting rid of chaplains all together. We needed our chaplain while we were stationed in Germany and had something horrific happen to our family while we were there. Never be in a hurry; do everything quietly and in a calm spirit. Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset. ~Saint Francis de Sales To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha |
Wylfdane (OP) User ID: 26880327 United States 07/23/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband is in the military. A chaplain is someone you can go to, to talk about your problems, and find a solution that works best for you. A chaplain is also someone you go to when you are having moral issues. So if the military is trying to make a position for an "Atheist Chaplain" then they are just trying to glorify a therapist for the ones who have no faith in anything other than themselves and are too afraid to go see a real therapist. Quoting: Brandywine84 I am just glad they aren't getting rid of chaplains all together. We needed our chaplain while we were stationed in Germany and had something horrific happen to our family while we were there. Something horrific? I'm sorry to hear that. God bless your husband and your family. I won't delve into your personal affairs if you don't wish to share over the internet... |
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Brandywine84 User ID: 36020080 United States 07/23/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just glad they aren't getting rid of chaplains all together. We needed our chaplain while we were stationed in Germany and had something horrific happen to our family while we were there. Quoting: Brandywine84 "Something horrific" needs to be clarified and explained. You really want to know my personal pains? Ok. We had been stationed in Stuttgart for 3 weeks. I took my 2 children outside to play in the park behind our barracks. My son (7) was playing soccer, while my daughter (4) was playing on the jungle gym. We had been outside for almost a half an hour when my son yelled my name to show me a trick he was doing by kicking the ball on his knee. I watched his trick for about half a minute and turned back to watch my daughter who was going down the slide. When I looked back, she was gone. I screamed, I yelled, I ran all over the park, over and over and over and couldnt find her. I ran around the barracks thinking she may have wandered off, but she couldnt get far because I was only turned away for half a minute. None of the children who were playing at the park could tell me which way she went. After a half an hour of searching she ran out naked, screaming and crying. A 14 year old boy grabbed her and drug her to the basement of the barracks which should have been locked and molested her. The kicker, the reason needed my chaplain, I called the cops rather than dragging this little pervert out by his neck and beating him to a pulp. The police there turned it over the the german police. Even though, this happened on a US Army base. The german police claim that since the teenager was under the age of 15 they wouldnt do anything about it. Nothing. And the military couldnt do anything about it since they had to turn it over to the german police. It was a flipping mess. The really fun part. The super duper in your face awesome part. The teenager lived RIGHT BEHIND me. Everytime I wanted to go outside, go to the doctor, go pick up my son from school, go to the bx, commissary, anywhere... I saw his smug little face. My kids couldnt go play outside. I couldnt leave my house, because if I did, I would have ended up in prison. When I told my neighbors about it, because what freaking parent wouldnt??? I got hit with a gag order. When I asked to move, I was told that was out of the question. So there, thats my horrific story. It took 5 months, 2 congressmen, and my chaplain saying it was in the best interest of my sanity to get us back to the states. Thankfully, now, it has been a year and a half, and my daughter is doing better. She lost all sense of boundaries after she was molested. She has been seeing her therapist, and now is a normal little girl. She has forgotten it mostly, except when she wakes up screaming at night. It hasnt happened in a few months though. She never remembers why she is screaming when she finally comes to. We have a long road ahead of us. Not to mention my son who blamed himself for the longest time. He too saw a therapist for a while about it. We never once blamed him, nor did we ever make him feel as though we did. It was tragic it happened, but there wasnt anyhting we could have done to prevent that little monster from doing what he did. A few months after we left... he did it again to another little girl at the same park. Go figure. Never be in a hurry; do everything quietly and in a calm spirit. Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset. ~Saint Francis de Sales To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha |
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Brandywine84 User ID: 36020080 United States 07/23/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I needed my chaplain. Without my chaplain I would have probably killed myself. I was in a horrible place when we were there. I hated myself for looking away for half a minute. I hated myself for calling the police. I hated myself for wanting to hurt another human being. I just plain hated myself. My chaplain helped me in more ways than he will ever know. God bless that man. Never be in a hurry; do everything quietly and in a calm spirit. Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset. ~Saint Francis de Sales To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha |
Wylfdane (OP) User ID: 26880327 United States 07/23/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just glad they aren't getting rid of chaplains all together. We needed our chaplain while we were stationed in Germany and had something horrific happen to our family while we were there. Quoting: Brandywine84 "Something horrific" needs to be clarified and explained. You really want to know my personal pains? Ok. We had been stationed in Stuttgart for 3 weeks. I took my 2 children outside to play in the park behind our barracks. My son (7) was playing soccer, while my daughter (4) was playing on the jungle gym. We had been outside for almost a half an hour when my son yelled my name to show me a trick he was doing by kicking the ball on his knee. I watched his trick for about half a minute and turned back to watch my daughter who was going down the slide. When I looked back, she was gone. I screamed, I yelled, I ran all over the park, over and over and over and couldnt find her. I ran around the barracks thinking she may have wandered off, but she couldnt get far because I was only turned away for half a minute. None of the children who were playing at the park could tell me which way she went. After a half an hour of searching she ran out naked, screaming and crying. A 14 year old boy grabbed her and drug her to the basement of the barracks which should have been locked and molested her. The kicker, the reason needed my chaplain, I called the cops rather than dragging this little pervert out by his neck and beating him to a pulp. The police there turned it over the the german police. Even though, this happened on a US Army base. The german police claim that since the teenager was under the age of 15 they wouldnt do anything about it. Nothing. And the military couldnt do anything about it since they had to turn it over to the german police. It was a flipping mess. The really fun part. The super duper in your face awesome part. The teenager lived RIGHT BEHIND me. Everytime I wanted to go outside, go to the doctor, go pick up my son from school, go to the bx, commissary, anywhere... I saw his smug little face. My kids couldnt go play outside. I couldnt leave my house, because if I did, I would have ended up in prison. When I told my neighbors about it, because what freaking parent wouldnt??? I got hit with a gag order. When I asked to move, I was told that was out of the question. So there, thats my horrific story. It took 5 months, 2 congressmen, and my chaplain saying it was in the best interest of my sanity to get us back to the states. Thankfully, now, it has been a year and a half, and my daughter is doing better. She lost all sense of boundaries after she was molested. She has been seeing her therapist, and now is a normal little girl. She has forgotten it mostly, except when she wakes up screaming at night. It hasnt happened in a few months though. She never remembers why she is screaming when she finally comes to. We have a long road ahead of us. Not to mention my son who blamed himself for the longest time. He too saw a therapist for a while about it. We never once blamed him, nor did we ever make him feel as though we did. It was tragic it happened, but there wasnt anyhting we could have done to prevent that little monster from doing what he did. A few months after we left... he did it again to another little girl at the same park. Go figure. I'm sorry that you and your family had to go through that. I wouldn't have bothered typing it for all the trolls around here, but thanks for sharing nonetheless. That little punk will pay ten-times over for the things he's done, in time. My best to you and yours. |
Brandywine84 User ID: 36020080 United States 07/23/2013 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few months after we left... he did it again to another little girl at the same park. Go figure. Quoting: Brandywine84 I take it the 14-year-old was the son of American military personnel. Did your husband work with his father? Yes his father was military himself. He was a master sergeant. I still to this day dont know why the military didnt do anything at all about it. He did work with him, but they worked different shifts. My husband couldnt say anything. He was pulled into a room with the base commander, head of the security forces, his first shirt, a 4 star, and 3 star, and was told to keep his mouth shut. We were all in our own little prison. And it didnt help that my husband was too afraid to stand up for his child to even dare say anything. ( I am still working on my anger about that) Never be in a hurry; do everything quietly and in a calm spirit. Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset. ~Saint Francis de Sales To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha |
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AdHocBOHICA User ID: 32335824 United States 07/23/2013 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Orwellian double speak. Love is hate, war is peace. The marxist agenda crept in on cat's feet. You just got "Karma'd".......enjoy! ETA: Is that even a word? “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1044117 United States 07/23/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make the fucking chaplain a Universal Unitarian and get it the hell over with already! Quoting: RantProne They've had those for years. [link to uuworld.org] Really. The Unitarians don't agree. |
Wylfdane (OP) User ID: 26880327 United States 07/23/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make the fucking chaplain a Universal Unitarian and get it the hell over with already! Quoting: RantProne They've had those for years. [link to uuworld.org] Really. The Unitarians don't agree. Aren't the Unitarians a big NWO stereotype in their own right? Seems like I've heard the whole "Antichrist, one-world religion" thing before... |