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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44933343 Canada 08/19/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now I understand this ZImmerman thing. People in the states are just backwards, everything is upside down there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Stealing a buck or 2 is so horrible you should die a painful death for it but murdering somebody is just fine if you say "he was coming right at me". So what if the robber killed the bartender? Was he right cause the bartender pointed a gun at him? I really don't understand Americans, everything is so wrong and backwards. No consistncy whatsoever. I really don't understand Europeans such as yourself. You are a pussy. I imagine if someone is beating you to take your wallet you just cower and turn the other cheek. One thing I have learned is that people with your mind set cannot be reasoned with............ you have the same unmovable and distorted view of things as the hardline animal rights activists. Not worth the breath. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45272982 United States 08/19/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Responding to the Netherland guy's point about murder rates. Homicide rates per 100,000 people color coded: we're actually quite low compared to many countries. [link to en.wikipedia.org] And in the US the Norway killer wouldn't have been able to kill so many without being stopped, probably by someone carrying. |
FatalW1shes User ID: 14748979 United States 08/19/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life? I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life. How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life. It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive. God damn you're a stupid motherfucker! That was fucking awesome. |
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FatalW1shes User ID: 14748979 United States 08/19/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disgusting, you can't take someone's life to secure a few bucks. He should have just let the poor victim of social injustice take whatever he wanted and let him be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Been too long since the last German Occupation I see. People like you are bullet fodder.....I guess we need you to eat lead and die useless deaths so the stronger more willing can survive and take care of the assholes in this world. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 08/19/2013 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HEY NEDERLANDER Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34711186 WHY DON'T YOU JUST INVITE THE GERMANS BACK IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN 1940-1945? THE ONLY THING THEY DID WRONG WAS WALK IN WITH A FEW GUNS AND WANTED TO TAKE YOUR STUFF ANYWAY. NO BIG DEAL. LOL retard, so because the Nazi's had guns they are good and everybody should have them? Holy fucking shit, is this a troll forum? I can't believe this is real. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41924162 United States 08/19/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HEY NEDERLANDER Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34711186 WHY DON'T YOU JUST INVITE THE GERMANS BACK IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN 1940-1945? THE ONLY THING THEY DID WRONG WAS WALK IN WITH A FEW GUNS AND WANTED TO TAKE YOUR STUFF ANYWAY. NO BIG DEAL. LOL retard, so because the Nazi's had guns they are good and everybody should have them? Holy fucking shit, is this a troll forum? I can't believe this is real. Who is trolling who? |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/19/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life? I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life. How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life. It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive. God damn you're a stupid motherfucker! SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country? People get robbed but they just give them their stuff, nobody dies in the end and crime isn't worse here. What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime. And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right? The onyl person threatening someone's life was the "hero" bartender. IMO even in 100% justified self defense you should go to prison for a year or so, taking a human life is ALWAYS bad. There is no justification possible,moral or otherwise, for threatening someone's life and taking valuables by force. That is always wrong and should be met with the strongest possible resistance. But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people. I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country. If being a helpless serf is your cup of tea, that's fine. Just don't wish, expect and want everyone else to be the same. And don't try to cover up this disgusting servility by attempting to co opt the moral high ground. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 08/19/2013 06:25 PM |
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ar-15 nut User ID: 44044090 United States 08/19/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disgusting, you can't take someone's life to secure a few bucks. He should have just let the poor victim of social injustice take whatever he wanted and let him be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 The butt hurt is STRONG! with this one We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 08/19/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life? I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life. How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life. It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive. God damn you're a stupid motherfucker! SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country? People get robbed but they just give them their stuff, nobody dies in the end and crime isn't worse here. What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime. And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right? The onyl person threatening someone's life was the "hero" bartender. IMO even in 100% justified self defense you should go to prison for a year or so, taking a human life is ALWAYS bad. There is no justification possible,moral or otherwise, for threatening someone's life and taking valuables by force. That is always wrong and should be met with the strongest possible resistance. But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people. I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country. If being a helpless serf is your cup of tea, that's fine. Just don't wish, expect and want everyone else to be the same. And don't try to cover up this disgusting servility by attempting to co opt the moral high ground. well people are allowed to defend themselves, just with appropriate force. You can't hit somebody if he hasn't hit you, you can't kill somebody if he hasn't tried to kill you. Yeah pointing a gun at someone is threatening so you are allowed to try to disarm them and in some cases you might even be allowed to kill them but only in extreme circumstances. Some guy robbing somebody for a few bucks is not worth taking the life of another person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 08/19/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't get it. If someone wants to rob you, just hand over your goods and be happy you did society a favor by not shooting them? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41924162 So you really think a human is worth less than a cellphone and a few bucks? Is that because you of your past with slavery? |
Jade User ID: 29246799 United States 08/19/2013 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life? I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life. How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life. Ah yes here bleeding heart. If a down on his luck guy walked up to you and spit in your face, would you knock him on his ass or open your mouth? How stupid you are. What the fuck is going on up there in the Netherlands? Stay off here if you dont want a daily ass chewing. Dumbass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29246799 United States 08/19/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't get it. If someone wants to rob you, just hand over your goods and be happy you did society a favor by not shooting them? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41924162 So you really think a human is worth less than a cellphone and a few bucks? Is that because you of your past with slavery? EW GOD MAKE IT LEAVE!!!!!!!! Troll!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 08/19/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't get it. If someone wants to rob you, just hand over your goods and be happy you did society a favor by not shooting them? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41924162 So you really think a human is worth less than a cellphone and a few bucks? Is that because you of your past with slavery? EW GOD MAKE IT LEAVE!!!!!!!! Troll!!! Seriously, wtf is wrong with this place? It is like FTB, if you have a opinion that doesn't adhere to the gospel you are a troll. Why do you think guns are practically illegal in the Netherlands? Why do you think we put strong restrictions on self defense? Because everybody here thinks that you can just shoot somebody over petty possession? Because nobody gives a fuck about other people and only about themselves? No, it is because we are civilised and think a human life is more important than crude matter. It is very calm and safe here because of it. It feels good sleeping at night that the crazies don't have the means to kill anybody that attacks their pride. |
ar-15 nut User ID: 44044090 United States 08/19/2013 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't get it. If someone wants to rob you, just hand over your goods and be happy you did society a favor by not shooting them? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41924162 So you really think a human is worth less than a cellphone and a few bucks? Is that because you of your past with slavery? I don't think people that do this are human at all. Thread: Home Invasion in Millburn NJ caught on Nanny Cam! Woman Brutally Beaten!!! UPDATE: SUSPECT ARRESTED!!! PAGE 8 We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/19/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive. God damn you're a stupid motherfucker! SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country? People get robbed but they just give them their stuff, nobody dies in the end and crime isn't worse here. What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime. And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right? The onyl person threatening someone's life was the "hero" bartender. IMO even in 100% justified self defense you should go to prison for a year or so, taking a human life is ALWAYS bad. There is no justification possible,moral or otherwise, for threatening someone's life and taking valuables by force. That is always wrong and should be met with the strongest possible resistance. But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people. I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country. If being a helpless serf is your cup of tea, that's fine. Just don't wish, expect and want everyone else to be the same. And don't try to cover up this disgusting servility by attempting to co opt the moral high ground. well people are allowed to defend themselves, just with appropriate force. You can't hit somebody if he hasn't hit you, you can't kill somebody if he hasn't tried to kill you. Yeah pointing a gun at someone is threatening so you are allowed to try to disarm them and in some cases you might even be allowed to kill them but only in extreme circumstances. Some guy robbing somebody for a few bucks is not worth taking the life of another person. when someone holds a gun on you they are threatening to take your life whether or not you comply. In many cases criminals kill people execution style after they are tied up or have given over their valuables. There is no way to know what the mindset is. So the appropriate thing to do is consider robbery by force as a deadly threat. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/19/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chip It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive. God damn you're a stupid motherfucker! SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country? People get robbed but they just give them their stuff, nobody dies in the end and crime isn't worse here. What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime. And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right? The onyl person threatening someone's life was the "hero" bartender. IMO even in 100% justified self defense you should go to prison for a year or so, taking a human life is ALWAYS bad. There is no justification possible,moral or otherwise, for threatening someone's life and taking valuables by force. That is always wrong and should be met with the strongest possible resistance. But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people. I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country. If being a helpless serf is your cup of tea, that's fine. Just don't wish, expect and want everyone else to be the same. And don't try to cover up this disgusting servility by attempting to co opt the moral high ground. well people are allowed to defend themselves, just with appropriate force. You can't hit somebody if he hasn't hit you, you can't kill somebody if he hasn't tried to kill you. Yeah pointing a gun at someone is threatening so you are allowed to try to disarm them and in some cases you might even be allowed to kill them but only in extreme circumstances. Some guy robbing somebody for a few bucks is not worth taking the life of another person. But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people. I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country. So the eighty year old can try to disarm or overpower the 20 year old thug. And you can that civilization? I call it the law of the jungle. |
Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States 08/19/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't get it. If someone wants to rob you, just hand over your goods and be happy you did society a favor by not shooting them? Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41924162 So you really think a human is worth less than a cellphone and a few bucks? Is that because you of your past with slavery? EW GOD MAKE IT LEAVE!!!!!!!! Troll!!! Why do you think guns are practically illegal in the Netherlands? Why do you think we put strong restrictions on self defense? I think the answers to both questions are that you Nederlanders are all PUSSIES, and your beer sucks. I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
pinkshirtguy User ID: 41953934 United States 08/19/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life? I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life. How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life. let me make this easy for you. $10 dollars is absolutely worth it when the person who dies is willing to die for $10. poyl |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 32335824 United States 08/19/2013 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thing I'm getting at. Is what do you do when confronted with violence? Are you the type of person to allow yourself to be killed, trusting your attacker, or will you actually take an action to defend yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23764026 Well my honest opinion and it might be a bit controversial is that it is better to be killed than to kill. Killing is ALWAYS wrong. And that concludes this conversation. It is pointless to argue with the insane. It is just the ethical end of the road. Killing is wrong so if there is a choice between killing somebody or be killed the only logical and ethical choice is to let yourself be killed. Yeah it is harsh but that IS the only logical conclusion you can have if you believe killing is wrong and that is why you take measures to prevent such a situation from ever happening. You are definitely insane. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States 08/19/2013 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 Well my honest opinion and it might be a bit controversial is that it is better to be killed than to kill. Killing is ALWAYS wrong. And that concludes this conversation. It is pointless to argue with the insane. It is just the ethical end of the road. Killing is wrong so if there is a choice between killing somebody or be killed the only logical and ethical choice is to let yourself be killed. Yeah it is harsh but that IS the only logical conclusion you can have if you believe killing is wrong and that is why you take measures to prevent such a situation from ever happening. You are definitely insane. I don't think he's insane, just dumber than a box of rocks. :boxorox222: I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 08/19/2013 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36793098 And that concludes this conversation. It is pointless to argue with the insane. It is just the ethical end of the road. Killing is wrong so if there is a choice between killing somebody or be killed the only logical and ethical choice is to let yourself be killed. Yeah it is harsh but that IS the only logical conclusion you can have if you believe killing is wrong and that is why you take measures to prevent such a situation from ever happening. You are definitely insane. I don't think he's insane, just dumber than a box of rocks. :boxorox222: Or he's a convict wanting special rights to kill innocent for social justice like because they have more money than this idiot. |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 32335824 United States 08/19/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308 It is just the ethical end of the road. Killing is wrong so if there is a choice between killing somebody or be killed the only logical and ethical choice is to let yourself be killed. Yeah it is harsh but that IS the only logical conclusion you can have if you believe killing is wrong and that is why you take measures to prevent such a situation from ever happening. You are definitely insane. I don't think he's insane, just dumber than a box of rocks. :boxorox222: Or he's a convict wanting special rights to kill innocent for social justice like because they have more money than this idiot. Probably so.......I think he should try out his theory over here. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
page8844 User ID: 24457594 United States 08/19/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45126405 If he has a gun pointed at you, there is a good frikken reason to believe he MIGHT do something. ***BANG*** I shoot first. For the most part criminals have guns to protect themselves from vigilantes who want to take justice into their own hands. Here most criminals don't have guns cause they don't need to protect themselves. ^^^ Liberalism is a mental disorder ^^^ Shitty logic thinking there... Poor criminals. So what if criminals rape you and steal your money... It's all about welfare of poor criminals... wah! wah! Grow a fucking brain, you retard. So having a different opinion than others is a mental disorder? Very telling, I am being very reserved in my opinions, I could also be throwing around dick sizes and little man complexes but I try to stay civil. Society is measured by how it treats it's poorest people. Criminals are for the most part victims of their upbringing and environment. They are so poor that they are practically forced to break the law. Nobody is going to starve themselves to death in order to follow the "holy" law. Nobody just wants to rob people and risk getting hurt or put in prison. These people need help, not bullets between their eyes. This is as far as I have got on this thread, so I don't know if this has been said. There are alot of career criminals in this country, that being said, when it gets too hard to live in society they don't mind going back in. In this country and probably others, criminals live better than some free people, so they don't mind getting caught doing a crime. They just don't want to get killed, but sometimes that happens. They picked the wrong person that day. |
Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States 08/19/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or he's a convict wanting special rights to kill innocent for social justice like because they have more money than this idiot. Probably so.......I think he should try out his theory over here. That wouldn't go well. I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |