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Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original November 1, 2008 at 11:30am

Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.

The strategy may have backfired. A statement by Hawaiian officials Friday that they have seen but won't release an "original" birth certificate that has never been released raises more questions than it answers. It undercuts the indignant claims of Obama spokesmen and supporters that the "birth certificate" has been published for months, and the ridicule and claims of "smear" that the Obama camp has made against anyone claiming otherwise.

Image: the "certification of live birth" claimed by Obama campaign as his "birth certificate"

According to an AP report, Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday that she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

But they won't say one word about what's on it.

Conspicuously, Hawaiian officials refuse to confirm that the information on the "original" certificate conforms to what has appeared on the "Certification of Live Birth" produced in 2007 that has so far been passed off as original by the Obama "Fight the Smears" site (here) and the Annenberg-backed site FactCheck.org (here). The latter dedicated a photoshoot to examining in pornographic detail a computer-generated facsimile that may bear no relation to the original document that the State of Hawaii now admits holding.

Can anyone smell "red herring"?

All of the obfuscation, which has been going on for more than four months, begs the question that the Obama campaign and its media supporters have steadfastly refused to answer: why won't the original birth certificate be released?

Why can't the Obama campaign do as the McCain campaign did, and release the original, typewritten document that the State of Hawaii, finally and in the last days before the election, admits exists in its "vaults"? What could be so damaging or contradictory that Obama has felt the need to keep hidden all these years and has created elaborate cover-ups to put forward computer-abstracted certification of live certificate instead of the original birth certificate?

Fukino says that no state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's birth certificate be handled differently. But state officials, including Lingle's office, have consistently refused media requests for the release of the document, saying that only Obama himself, or a close family number, was authorized to have access to the "original" certificate. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Apparently that does not include the American People.

And yet Obama claimed in his memoir Dreams from my Father that he had in his possession his birth certificate. Unless the document has been "lost," he could publish the original without visiting grandma in Honolulu.

Trumpeting victory in Hawaii's admission that a suppressed "original" birth certificate exists is Chicago-based journalist Andy Martin, a long time nemesis of Obama, whose trip to Hawaii preceded the candidate's. (Obama arrived just as Martin left). Martin takes credit for forcing the State's hand in a press release:

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin. Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.

Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.

"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.

Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008. He has scheduled a press conference for today (Saturday, November 1).

[link to israelinsider.ning.com]

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FIRST!!
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Christians only like the JEWS because they're supposed to be the first ones baby jesus kills when he comes back to Earth.
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If he used a fraudulent document to obtain his passport, he's committed a federal offense.

Law enforcement authorities should investigate.
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OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO PROVIDE AN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT AND STATE OFFICIALS CONFIRMED THAT IT EXISTS.

WELL...LETS SEE IT AMEGO.

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OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO PROVIDE AN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT AND STATE OFFICIALS CONFIRMED THAT IT EXISTS.

WELL...LETS SEE IT AMEGO.

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I want to see yours first
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You probably would stick a dagger into someone to "help them shut up".

Typical Obarkyfraud supporter - brainless, NY-liberal, dope-smoking punk.

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People need to understand why there is such a push to keep the neocons in office. Understand what you are really voting for. ENDTIMES. They're going to try to make it happen come hell or highwater. And damn the consequences...if they're wrong.
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stfu2


You probably would stick a dagger into someone to "help them shut up".

Typical Obarkyfraud supporter - brainless, NY-liberal, dope-smoking punk.

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...and what are you? A saint?
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We really need a 0 star option. Just for Pac's steaming pile of crap threads.

Did you up your dosage of anti-depressants yet? Your going to need it starting Tues evening. For at least...............8 years. But, luckily for you, by the end of Obama's term, your alzheimers will be so far advanced, you won't know the difference between you dick and your nose. Not that there is THAT much difference anyway.
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Video Proof Barack Obama was born in Kenia
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People need to understand why there is such a push to keep the neocons in office. Understand what you are really voting for. ENDTIMES. They're going to try to make it happen come hell or highwater. And damn the consequences...if they're wrong.
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People need to understand why there is such a push to keep the neocons in office. Understand what you are really voting for. ENDTIMES. They're going to try to make it happen come hell or highwater. And damn the consequences...if they're wrong.
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It's insane, and so so real to them.
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NEXT TIME "YOU" ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE YOUR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE JUST TELL THEM YOU POSTED A "COLB" ON YOUR WEB SITE. SEE IF THAT WORKS.


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PACNWGUY, you do realize this is what the neocon/evangelical crew wants right? To bring about the endtimes. They don't even hide it.

DO you support this? Think God is going to come save Christian Americans after we re-make biblical revelation all on our own?
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Israeli source, PacNazi? How befitting of you.
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:stfu2:


You probably would stick a dagger into someone to "help them shut up".

Typical Obarkyfraud supporter - brainless, NY-liberal, dope-smoking punk.

rofllollmao

...and what are you? A saint?
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Certainly not.

But I would never initiate, or suggest, the use of violence against someone with whom I disagreed politically.

I can see how this election farce is going to go down.

Obarkyfraud will most likely "win", and I will bet dollars to doughnuts that there will be violence from the "winners".

That is because brainless liberals will feel vindicated, and released from their social contract of civility towards other people, plus many parasitic and criminally-inclined people will vote for Obarkyfraud because he is going to give them lots of "free stuff".

Violence is assured, however the election goes.

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NEXT TIME "YOU" ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE YOUR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE JUST TELL THEM YOU POSTED A "COLB" ON YOUR WEB SITE. SEE IF THAT WORKS.


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Wake up my friends *airquotes*

You support the destruction of the world, led by America, to bring about endtimes. Realize this.
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IMHO, someone who equates an image to actual and literal violence... might be psychotic and delusional.

It's only an image.

I bet this will initiate some assumptions in your head as well:

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Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original November 1, 2008 at 11:30am

Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.

The strategy may have backfired. --end quote..

Yes in deed it is clear, to those who face the truth and don't put their head in the sand. There is some Bull shit flying in the bogus news..

This man, if put in position of President, will never be my authority or king, I refuse him, and mark my words, those who support him will be sorry later on.. But besides all that, I still think HE IS A PUPET !

With this whack Baby killer and Gun grabber at the helm, TPTB, will speed up their Tyranny !
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Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original November 1, 2008 at 11:30am

Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.

The strategy may have backfired. A statement by Hawaiian officials Friday that they have seen but won't release an "original" birth certificate that has never been released raises more questions than it answers. It undercuts the indignant claims of Obama spokesmen and supporters that the "birth certificate" has been published for months, and the ridicule and claims of "smear" that the Obama camp has made against anyone claiming otherwise.

Image: the "certification of live birth" claimed by Obama campaign as his "birth certificate"

According to an AP report, Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday that she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

But they won't say one word about what's on it.

Conspicuously, Hawaiian officials refuse to confirm that the information on the "original" certificate conforms to what has appeared on the "Certification of Live Birth" produced in 2007 that has so far been passed off as original by the Obama "Fight the Smears" site (here) and the Annenberg-backed site FactCheck.org (here). The latter dedicated a photoshoot to examining in pornographic detail a computer-generated facsimile that may bear no relation to the original document that the State of Hawaii now admits holding.

Can anyone smell "red herring"?

All of the obfuscation, which has been going on for more than four months, begs the question that the Obama campaign and its media supporters have steadfastly refused to answer: why won't the original birth certificate be released?

Why can't the Obama campaign do as the McCain campaign did, and release the original, typewritten document that the State of Hawaii, finally and in the last days before the election, admits exists in its "vaults"? What could be so damaging or contradictory that Obama has felt the need to keep hidden all these years and has created elaborate cover-ups to put forward computer-abstracted certification of live certificate instead of the original birth certificate?

Fukino says that no state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's birth certificate be handled differently. But state officials, including Lingle's office, have consistently refused media requests for the release of the document, saying that only Obama himself, or a close family number, was authorized to have access to the "original" certificate. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Apparently that does not include the American People.

And yet Obama claimed in his memoir Dreams from my Father that he had in his possession his birth certificate. Unless the document has been "lost," he could publish the original without visiting grandma in Honolulu.

Trumpeting victory in Hawaii's admission that a suppressed "original" birth certificate exists is Chicago-based journalist Andy Martin, a long time nemesis of Obama, whose trip to Hawaii preceded the candidate's. (Obama arrived just as Martin left). Martin takes credit for forcing the State's hand in a press release:

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin. Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.

Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.

"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.

Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008. He has scheduled a press conference for today (Saturday, November 1).

[link to israelinsider.ning.com]

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The story so far ...
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Notice how lots of comments plastering unimpressive cartoons all over the place totally ignored an earlier post that provided a link to a video showing Obama's grandmother stating unambiguously that Obama was born in Kenya, thereby rendering all argument about his birth certificate totally irrelevant.

No comment on an explosive new development. No, you people prefer just to wave your arms and spout hot air, arguing how many angels can sit on a pin head.

Total waste of time.
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There was a video of sarah obama saying he
was born in hosp in Kenya

that vidoe is now missing from you tube
I posted it here more than a week ago but
even if I had that post the link would
now not be working

this is as far as we cannow get.

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Obama,s grandma speaks out

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Proof that Obama Born in Kenya? --
Barack step-grandmother reportedly
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OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO PROVIDE AN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT AND STATE OFFICIALS CONFIRMED THAT IT EXISTS.

WELL...LETS SEE IT AMEGO.

speedy
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I heard this on the news on several stations. But they were saying it would put a end to all the law suits so maybe they will turn it over.

But yes the question still remains Why for heavens sakes didn't they release this from the start.
Still nothing adds up as far as the chosen one goes.
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He is just an arrogant piece of sh*t who thinks he can get away with anything.

I doubt if it will appear before the election. It's all just part of his stalling tactics.
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His own arrogance should disbar him from being President.
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Video Proof Barack Obama was born in Kenia
Posted on November 1st, 2008 by admin

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Keep on trying, Pac. I suppose the birth certificate thing is really all you have left to hold onto in desperation, so I can't be too hard on ya.
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wow.

you'd think if this was a real issue, mccain and the gop would be all over it. too bad it's not.





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