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UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt

 
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UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt

JONATHON PORRITT, one of Gordon Brown’s leading green advisers, is to warn that Britain must drastically reduce its population if it is to build a sustainable society.

Porritt’s call will come at this week’s annual conference of the Optimum Population Trust (OPT), of which he is patron.

The trust will release research suggesting UK population must be cut to 30m if the country wants to feed itself sustainably.

Porritt said: “Population growth, plus economic growth, is putting the world under terrible pressure.

“Each person in Britain has far more impact on the environment than those in developing countries so cutting our population is one way to reduce that impact.”

Population growth is one of the most politically sensitive environmental problems. The issues it raises, including religion, culture and immigration policy, have proved too toxic for most green groups.

However, Porritt is winning scientific backing. Professor Chris Rapley, director of the Science Museum, will use the OPT conference, to be held at the Royal Statistical Society, to warn that population growth could help derail attempts to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Rapley, who formerly ran the British Antarctic Survey, said humanity was emitting the equivalent of 50 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year.

“We have to cut this by 80%, and population growth is going to make that much harder,” he said.

Such views on population have split the green movement. George Monbiot, a prominent writer on green issues, has criticised population campaigners, arguing that “relentless” economic growth is a greater threat.

Many experts believe that, since Europeans and Americans have such a lopsided impact on the environment, the world would benefit more from reducing their populations than by making cuts in developing countries.

This is part of the thinking behind the OPT’s call for Britain to cut population to 30m — roughly what it was in late Victorian times.

Britain’s population is expected to grow from 61m now to 71m by 2031. Some politicians support a reduction.

Phil Woolas, the immigration minister, said: “You can’t have sustainability with an increase in population.”

The Tory leader, David Cameron, has also suggested Britain needs a “coherent strategy” on population growth.

Despite these comments, however, government and Conservative spokesmen this weekend both distanced themselves from any population policy. ”

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Re: UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt
The UK population will be down to 30 million by the end of 2010 . See ya tossers
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I propose getting rid of all politicians for starters. Then all government workers (local & central), quangos and assemblies, 90% of council administrators and any French people.

That'll make a good start.
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Knight of Malta, Tom Cruise donates to the Optimum Population Trust of Manchester, England. He and his father are major depopulationists. Both are tied to the Papal bloodline Orsini family a most powerful family in complete control of the conspiracy. Pepe Orsini is the grey Pope working with his Black Pope in his Society Of Jesus. The Orsini(Maximus/Orso) family are the Zoroastrianist shadow hierachy of the Jesuit Order.
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when they did that to Ireland
it led to a mass migration
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Knight of Malta, Tom Cruise donates to the Optimum Population Trust of Manchester, England. He and his father are major depopulationists. Both are tied to the Papal bloodline Orsini family a most powerful family in complete control of the conspiracy. Pepe Orsini is the grey Pope working with his Black Pope in his Society Of Jesus. The Orsini(Maximus/Orso) family are the Zoroastrianist shadow hierachy of the Jesuit Order.
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I'd like links/references to all of that please!
Everything is permitted..
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okay...who is first??
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How when the borders are still open to every tom,Dick and harry.Oh wait.....Pack the uk solid then release birdflu on the population,that should do the trick.
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okay...who is first??
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Im thinking Porritt should be the first to volunteer, followed quickly by Gordon and the rest of his cabinet.
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okay...who is first??
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I've got a great idea in reducing the UK population.

Instead of keeping old folk in smelly old folks homes & hospices, just send them off to 'retirement' homes in the sun, like Spain & other warm countries. Save a fortune on expensive accommadation and high gas bills! They could sit out in the sun, eat healthy diets, socialise with each other. I wish my Nana had had this opportunity.

Then, get all the 'no hope' criminals & send them off somewhere outta the country to serve their sentences, saving more money & energy. Maybe consider Australia again.

Free condoms for school kids, to cut down on unwanted teenage pregnancies. Foster kids could be raised abroad, able to return back anytime they like.

Severely tighten immigration controls, stop letting them in! Offer financial incentives to afro-caribs to return back to their ancesteral home, liasing with afro-carib authorites in africa/caribean to make the transistion easy. The same can apply to the Arabs. NOT enforced repatriation, just incentives to live in the sun abroad & leave us alone.

Try & spread the population centres out to the coasts and countryside with self-sufficient incentive programs to power their own electric/grow their own food.. reducing the intensity of the cities. Kids tend to act less aggressive surrounded by nature.

There's always ideas that could be discussed and implemented.. but let the old folk retire cheaply in the sun in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece & wherever..
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Georgia guide stones anyone?
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the life haters should do the obvious thing
and make an example of themselves
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[link to www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk]

HEALTH bosses in Leeds have drawn up a masterplan outlining how the city would cope with a flu pandemic that could claim the lives of 10,000 of its people.

The Department of Health told NHS Leeds to draw up plans in case there was a major outbreak of flu.

The world is closer to another epidemic than at any time since 1968, according to a report to a meeting of NHS Leeds directors.

Dr Ian Cameron, executive director of public health at NHS Leeds, told the meeting the plans assumed the worst.

He said: "We planned for a 50 per cent attack rate which would in terms of primary care mean an increase of 110,000 people requiring help and support."

Dr Cameron also said the plans were drawn up in terms of a 2.5 per cent death rate which would mean around 10,000 extra deaths in Leeds.
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Re: UK population must fall to 30m, says Porritt
okay...who is first??


I've got a great idea in reducing the UK population.

Instead of keeping old folk in smelly old folks homes & hospices, just send them off to 'retirement' homes in the sun, like Spain & other warm countries. Save a fortune on expensive accommadation and high gas bills! They could sit out in the sun, eat healthy diets, socialise with each other. I wish my Nana had had this opportunity.

Then, get all the 'no hope' criminals & send them off somewhere outta the country to serve their sentences, saving more money & energy. Maybe consider Australia again.

Free condoms for school kids, to cut down on unwanted teenage pregnancies. Foster kids could be raised abroad, able to return back anytime they like.

Severely tighten immigration controls, stop letting them in! Offer financial incentives to afro-caribs to return back to their ancesteral home, liasing with afro-carib authorites in africa/caribean to make the transistion easy. The same can apply to the Arabs. NOT enforced repatriation, just incentives to live in the sun abroad & leave us alone.

Try & spread the population centres out to the coasts and countryside with self-sufficient incentive programs to power their own electric/grow their own food.. reducing the intensity of the cities. Kids tend to act less aggressive surrounded by nature.

There's always ideas that could be discussed and implemented.. but let the old folk retire cheaply in the sun in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece & wherever..
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Blacks make up less than 1% of immigrants to the UK. If you want to solve this problem you need to round up the 10 million WHITE Eastern Europeans who arrived in the UK in past five years.

Of course, you could always repatriate Asians, Anglo Saxons, Celts and Romans. That would reduce the population by over 90%.
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boring..the UK is'nt over populated yet..we could probally handle 250 million..
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I propose Jonathon Porritt be the first to go!
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nuclear devices above London, Birmingham, South Wales, Liverpool, Manchester, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Hull, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Newcastle, Edinburgh, glasgow and Belfast should get the population down to a figure accepable to Dr Porritt.
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vaccinate.
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WOW Seriously just wow.. Sheeple need to wake up.. Time is running out..





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