Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Hi.

The symbol should just be something that has little-to-no pre-existing value. Nevermind about relativity or how you think it relates to the 'desired' perspective.

Logic can be anything. Just make sure it facilitates the symbol interacting with your perspective. The more it interacts the better.

Possibility can be anything (any space). It is thought of where the symbol can interact.

Interaction need not be often. It can be seldom, as long as the symbol is interacting with those values in your perspective that you'd like to experience more of. If it interacts often it's good but not essential.

A regular shoe used as a hat may not be a useful symbol because the show has pre-existing value (not because it's clothing). Change the nature of the shoe itself to make it something new (to assign a new value to it). If you paint it or wrap it in something and then put it on your head, for example, that is fine.

hope this helps.

Yes.

Here's how the previous scenario plays out in your past (the rated G version)...

you would have taken this car along for the ride with you to see the other car, holding it in your hand. Talking to the seller you realize, midway in conversation, that you have something in your hand. You actually forget what it is and you open up your hand, surprised. The person you are with is also surprised and a nexus point is created then and there, enabling the new values in your perspective (in this case, the real car) to interact with your toy car.

After a sort-of short discussion about your toy car the seller would 'make a deal' with you (I am not sure what kind of deal, as I was not paying attention to that part) so that you would essentially get the car for free after doing 1 thing that you consider quite easy in relation to the benefit.

But the good thing is that you now have the symbol that I have pre-programmed for you (for free! lol) that actually did not exist in your reality a few days ago (the memory is also free).

You can use it to unlock the perspective of owning the car. But it is up to you to figure out how.

A hint: see my example above about one of my cars that I purchased and apply it to your car's restoration and post-restoration. Care to enter a contest?

(No more hints. May the 4-sys be with you!)

Don't think too much about the logic. The details are essentially meaningless.

The purpose is to focus on something. So it does not matter what the rules you have set are, as long as they enable your new symbol to interact with your perspective.

Just take two or more things and put them together.

A modified something should be fine. Just continue to modify it until enough meaning is dispensed with that you begin to see something new. (Apologies if this isn't clear. I am not sure how to write this.)

A symbol done from scratch is even better.

An example of something with little-to-no value could be you taking two things that you've never seen before and you don't know what they're used for and (not trying to guess what they are) putting them together.

[Everything has a value though. But from our current perspective we can try to guess on things that may have very, very little pre-existing meaning to us.]

Last Edited by Chaol on 11/07/2012 10:53 AM

I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.

It is inaccurately determined by the conscious mind*,

and more accurately determined by the sub-conscious mind.

It is safer to say that we do not know the value of something. We assume that we know what something is but usually we do not.

But using the Genius** the value will be uncovered, defined in our perspective and, thus, discovered in our experience.

*these terms here used for sake of illustration. There's really no difference between the two. Another chapter, perhaps.

**the Genius being your "sub-conscious"

Last Edited by Chaol on 11/07/2012 11:19 AM

Here's an illustration of how it's difficult for us to guess the relevancy of something...

Whatever is prevalent in your perspective now is highly relative to it and, thus, to you.

If an old, rotting ham sandwich is nearby it is more relevant to your current perspective than your mother whom is not.

Take a look around you. Each in your perspective has a high degree of relevancy. This may be obvious to you if you are at home. But it does not stop there.

Walk outside.

The people you pass, the strange things you see, the smells, the experiences, etc. All more relevant than that which you think is more relevant to your perspective.

Just an example of how it's difficult for our "conscious mind" to know the value of something,

and easier for the Genius (the "sub-conscious") to know it because it is the one doing the calculations, so to speak.

With pleasure :)

Thank you. I feel like you used relevancy and value as equivalent terms in this post too. I may be missing something.

Apologies for the lack of clarity.

Imagine that everything in your reality is assigned a number (a value) from the dust to the photons to the television.

When we add all of these values up we get an other number, a sum that represents your perspective. For this example let's say that sum is 72

Further, let's say that "36" is more relevant to "72" than "73" is (for 36x2). Many other values surrounding "72" are not as relevant to it than "18" or "9", for example.

Putting 72 next to 74 is not as energy-efficient as putting it next to 36 or 144.

So in your "72" perspective, there are values everywhere but not all similar values are equally relative. We can determine the value of something by observing, in a way, that which surrounds it.

hope this helps to clarify.

An apology is unnecessary and thank you, it does clarify things for me. I suppose then, my confusion stemmed from a misinterpretation of the word "value". I had read and interpreted it as the value from "valuable"(like, "i value that which is most relative" perhaps like "worth") and not as the value within the geometry of relationships.

Thank you very much. I apologize for my ignorance.

Chaol, thanks for all of your time and advice on this interesting new science of ecsys. I have been following this (and other) threads of yours for a little while now and have made several attempts at using the Genius. Something just isn't snapping for me, and I can't seem to pin it down.

Would you help me (and any advice from any of the 'students' here would be greatly appreciated) to work my way through another attempt at the Genius?

I want to get a particular job, and the logical story-line to the end result is very relative all ready. I would like to use the Genius to get the exact position I desire, and I feel this ready-made-logical-outcome will make a good instructional attempt towards a high probability successful outcome.

Step One: Create Symbol. I will create a symbol that represents the exact job I want? Or should I rather create a symbol that would represent the annoying benefits package selection process paperwork that is associated with the exact position (or something to this effect)?

Thanks in advance for any help you may provide!

Chaol,

Thank you for all the clarification on the Genius lately. A lot of context makes sense now, that was overlooked before. The picture is getting clearer.

Chaol could you please give some feedback on how to continue this along or make it better, all help is deeply appreciated...
I will follow your every suggestion and not give up till I make this relative for us all.

Symbol: straw in wrapper with yellow pipe cleaner twisted around it, with a moon pie wrapper taped around the middle with scotch tape, and a wrapper of a quarter roll taped around the top with duct tape.

Represents: bank notification that 450 million US dollars has been transferred to 9 other accounts. With each receiving 50 million dollars.

Possibility: My windowsill

Logic: will tap my cats on their right ears with symbol everytime they jump onto my windowsill.

Interaction: sharing symbol with others on forum

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What do you think Chaol?

The bat lady?

Wonderful Chaol! Thanks for the hint! I'd like me som 4sys! :-)

But then a question arises... what made me not get your hint about this rated G scenario? Apparently something made me not follow although the easier (?) possibility was there.

I'll leaf to the thread looking for your car posts! (I don't quite get the contest thing, but that may have something to do with me not being native english speaker... sorry!)

But today I had a discussion with the wife. She says she finds it a very bad decision to try to get that car; she doesn't think it will fit in our garage; she doesn't think we can afford to store it elsewhere; she doesn't think I am able to pull the restoration off, and she doesn't think we can afford the restoration.

She now says she is sorry that she took me to look at that car, because now she is the cause that I won't go through with getting it and I will resent that with her the rest of her life (she thinks, and maybe she's right).

I was born in a family of possibility-finders am married into a family of problem-seekers. It's odd.

She hangs out with the Dark Knight.

Just for share:

I had a dream this night that I had a pet kiwi (the fruit lol), and he was really alive. Then worms started to appear in his body and I had to kill him.

Weirdest dream ever.

That's so sad!

Yeah

I just killed my best dream world friend.

Well, if it's any consolation, he'll all ways be a value in your perspective! :)

:)

lol! Priceless!

Hello, tuuuuur. You realize that your wife is a projection of yourself, right? She is reflecting your own misgivings about the car. Once you, yourself, get past your doubts and make a firm decision to pursue your dream, then your wife will magically be supportive of you.

What was the time span (in our local time) between creating the formula using the Bentley tires and getting the actual car?

I have a story too along these lines. I needed a new car, but I hate making car payments. So, I spent six months looking at the cheapest ride I could find. When I got tired of looking at ratty old cars, I would go to the Mercedes-Benz sites and fantasize. The day came that I ran across a whale of a deal on a Mercedes-Benz. I couldn't get this car out of my mind, but I did not want to make huge monthly payments for six years. I went to look at her, and she just sang out to me! This was the one!

The next day, while wanting that car more than anything, I remembered...get this! I remembered!...that I had a bunch of money stashed away. I had forgotten about $50,000 that I had put in an account and completely forgotten about. I paid cash for a Mercedes-Benz. She is still sitting out there in my driveway. I love my car.

To this day, I am still in awe of how I had the money for something I really wanted, and it took me six months to remember that I had it. I use this method of remembering over and over again. It works really well for me. Truly, I lack for nothing.

Likewise unnecessary :)

We learn from one-another.

I don't know why you call drones lady. I call them little pissy SiRI lasers.

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Hi.

Any symbol will do. Just create something unique. No need to relate it directly to your intention. You're representing something that cannot be represented, so it doesn't matter what it is. (But if you try to represent something intentionally using elements from what you desire you will most likely be missing a world of experiences, and could be missing your desired perspective.)

Oh my gosh! For you, Chaol