Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

1) Symbol: egg carton holder with a toothpick stuck through it and a red dot made with fingernail polish. (Scroll down)
[link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]

2) Space: Will leave symbol in bank @ 11:00 AM every Tuesday while I do my banking. (will be going to different branches so I don't think I need a different symbol each time. It's still the bank my account is in.)

3) Interaction: Someone will throw it away or say something about it.

4) Every time my account has an additional $12,581.74 in it, I will purchase a $1.00 lottery ticket. (until I reach $50 million)

I will do the same thing as above for a visit to Barnes and Noble @ Noon on Tuesdays, with a different symbol.

Another Edit: I just saw where Chaol said to do multiple Genius models. So, I'll make a Genius model for the lottery tickets too. Also for the CPA, tax attorney and investment adviser.

Edit: Btw, thanks for the cheer!
And kewl video! LOL!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/10/2012 10:55 PM

You guys are moving too fast, wait for meee!

Thanks. You're right that the confusion needs to be cleared as early as possible.

I keep going back to the website for my base and the terms have morphed since then. I forget what I learn! ;o(



Anyway, here's another way to look at it:

Symbol is............what.
Space is.............where.
Interaction is ......how.
Rules are............what happens.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/10/2012 10:24 PM

Everybody is included. Once we figure this out, we'll lay it out for you. I want this for myself and for everyone else. But honey, we are not waiting, LOL!

Edit: Once I ever get it though, I'll be more than glad to help you or anyone else. Through helping you, I'll learn too. But really, you aren't that far behind. Today was awesome though.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/10/2012 08:59 PM

Stuff like this really helps me. Thanks.

That's why I posted what I learned today in a recap. I think it's a good idea for us to do this so we can remember.....and also others, as they come along, have a summary too.

It's great to see you guys making progress, really!

I'm still taking baby steps, the language is really a barrier for me. But I'd be glad if I can help too! :^)

Hi Chaol!

Would it be accurate to say that songs can work as symbols?

Because I tend to 'encode' a song with the setting/emotions/events that exist when I first hear it, and am reminded of them every time the song plays.

I'm thinking that this could work mentally as well (hearing the song in your head), if a meaning has been consciously attached from the get-go.

Idk, there's just something about music that speaks to the soul :)

Oh yeah, I bet English is your second language. But don't worry about that. If you don't know a word, just guess. We'll ask if we don't understand.

I'm still in baby steps too. I tell you what, if you can post a Genius plan and interact with Chaol and the rest of us, it will really help you, imo. AND, it will help us.

Just look at all the information we got today. It was great today with several of us posting and asking questions. Every perspective helps. It really does.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/10/2012 10:17 PM

I will try to steer you in the right direction :)

But it would not be fair if I just made it happen for you. Better to learn and teach about it. And I will "interfere" where I think it will help in the learning process, as I have done for others.

I know you've already begun with the symbols, but do you think it's a good idea to use an arrow in combination with an 'X'?

Then why not make that the goal of a Genius model?

And how do you get an invitation to the Player's Championship? (Make one for that, too.)

And so on...

It is indeed all over and everywhere extant.

Once we see it working for us then we can see it working everywhere simultaneously.

It is the nature of existence and how our perspectives comes to be, in physical expression.

Hi.

The purpose of creating additional Genius models (groups of element combinations) would be to further create the perspective that you're headed to.

Your sub-conscious will create additional models anyway but by being aware of the process you can steer it in the way that you want.

You can create hundreds of symbol+interaction+logic+possibility Geniuses, all with the same loose intention.

You can use the same Possibility (space) for two different Symbols however I would suggest it only after you've become comfortable with how your creations work.

So for you I would suggest that each unique symbol uses a unique space (possibility). And similar or identical symbols can use the same space element.

So make several Genius models for our one goal. Very interesting. And I can see how this helps to bring the goal closer pretty fast. Nice.

So here is what I have so far, I am hoping for a review.

I have my symbol

The goal is income $20,000 for a new project. I am envisioning myself filling out an invoice for $20,000

The space is my home office

The logic is at least once a day I make a small change to the symbol and move it from the shelf to my desk, and rotate it's position

Am I missing anything?

Aren't they awarded a distinctive green jacket?

Hi.

Can Service Pros fix something where you live currently? If not, it would work much better. If they can then you may just end up with a broken something where you are currently, because that would be the path that your Genius sees as most efficient to your destination.

You'll want to shoot for something that is only likely to exist as part of the experience of your new house.

However, your new symbol would not be the letter itself. That is too obvious and would require lots of energy to experience it multiple kinds of physicality*. Your goal can, in stead, be to receive such letters or communication.

You would then create a Genius path to it.

You can just create a random, unique symbol with that in mind. There is no need to create an obvious symbol or one that you think would work. Just do it randomly and your sub-conscious will take care of the rest.

You and your current perspective (your house, your family, your life, etc.) can then interact with the new symbol. It could be as simple a thing as a question, "What is that?" asked by someone. Or even a rat chewing on it. This enables your current perspective to be drawn to your 'future', desired perspective.

(Really you're just bringing your future perspective out of the current one. It's kind of like a sculptor chipping away at stone. Except that you're doing it mentally, at every moment, and on-the-fly with everything that you see, know, touch, feel, dream, etc.)

Your Genius knows everything. It knows it even before you do. (There is no separation between you and your sub-conscious. I just use these terms and phrases for ease of illustration.)

Imagine that when you see something 'new' or unique in your perspective for the first time your sub-conscious is open to suggestions as to what it is. So you make a suggestion (by intention) that, for example, "this ball of clay with the ice cream flag on it is my new car!"

Your sub-conscious says, "Yeah, ok. That will work." because it has nothing invested in the symbol. (Which is why we need to use symbols that have as little pre-existing value as possible.)

Then when you interact with your ball of clay you are actually interacting with your new car. To your sub-conscious there is not much difference between the car (in your future) and your ball of clay.

But wait.. your sub-conscious realizes that it will be difficult to pick up your cousin with a ball of clay. Further, it will need to be fixed at the mechanic and may need an oil change. It will take too much energy for your sub-conscious to perceive picking up your cousin in a ball of clay. It will also take too much energy to change the oil in your ball of clay. (It can be done, of course, as every possibility exists. But the question is, "How much energy does it take to bring it to your perspective?")

So then it changes your perspective of your ball of clay into the new car that it also is in order to conserve as much energy as possible.

With the Genius we're just using (what I call) Ecsys Prime, which is that "We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive".

In a way it's tricking your perspective. It doesn't really care about cars or balls of clay. It's pretty much all the same to it. It is only about relationships and the fact that it will waste a lot of energy (meaning, it is not relative) to change the oil of a ball of clay. And since the ball of clay has been interacting with the new Toyota dealership service center it will take more energy to perceive going someplace new, so it may as well be a Toyota. etc, etc.

So there's no need to force anything. When we think we're smarter than our Genius then it's unlikely to work :)

*once you 'wish' it it is all ready fulfilled by your sub-conscious in what would be called metaphysical reality. This usually completely satisfies the need for the 'real' experience that you wanted. Putting it further into your current physical experience is something that your Genius would see as a waste of energy unless there is an other reason for it (an other logical narrative that would dictate that your Genius present the experience to you).

Am I what?

Is there anything that I am completely aware of? No, it would be impossible.

Everything is comprised entirely out of nothing and only seems to be something when we've related two nothings together.

To be completely aware of something means being aware of nothing which, by the nature of perspective, is impossible. (i.e., you can perceive nothing but you would not be perceiving anything)

If your children play hide-and-seek, for example, why not find a really good hiding place? Like an other world? Then I will try to come find you :)

Doing even the slightest bit brings it closer to your perspective.

So even if they fail you have introduced the concept to their perspective which brings it closer to their perspective.

It could even be the thought of hiding in an other world that brings them closer to the experience of living in an other world.

It's exactly what I am doing in this forum :)

Indeed. However, you can easily create a value in English by simply making one up.

This brings it closer to perspective.

VERY interesting. Thank you. So talking to my husband about Ecsys still brings it closer, even though he is not interested. And the reason my relative is getting caught up with us in this forum, is because I'm talking about these kinds of things with her. So the SciFi books showed up to help her.

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The prototype can be the symbol. You all ways need to represent it now.

However, you can also represent it indirectly with a bonne tot. As long as you're working with the bonne tot right now.

Your Potential Energy element is fine. It could also be something on or of the internet (which is more readily-defined, as the bounds of the internet is moving into the realm of abstraction).

For your logic, how many sit-ups and push-ups can you do? Your results may be limited by this. As in, "I can't give away that many prizes because I'm tired of doing push-ups." It need not make sense. It could be that you'll ring a golden bell. When your site is popular and you're giving away lots of prizes you can make a Flash animation of a continuously-ringing golden bell and it would still work.

Nice work. I can almost see it on the horizon.

I'm marking this sucker!!!!

:greenbump:

Last Edited by ERE3 on 11/10/2012 11:33 PM

Or you could be really subtle with 'ecsys'-shaped pancakes, monogrammed bath towels, and coffee cups with Chaol-isms.



Nothing too obvious, you know?

Hi. Some notes:

Altough (for 3) the entire exercise can be mental I would not suggest it until you've got a feel for how the physical works. You can try it (as I do consciously) but it's a bit more advanced. It's something that your sub-conscious is doing right now and may be a bit overwhelming to experience.

For 7, the logic need not make sense. It's just a way to define limits. Otherwise it's too abstract for your sub-conscious. If the logic is crazy or strange that's fine also (I recommend it, because it really wakes your sub-conscious us and fortifies the perspective).

And, as an other poster has stated, "Rules" are the Logic element.



No, not easier. The question is how relative is it? If one person has an idea that others can contribute to, for example, is it easier than perceiving 10 separate things happening?

The easiest, probably, is to take an idea that someone has and turn it into something big.

An alternative would be to make it a contest where each person comes up with their own model and try it for a couple of weeks, reporting on progress, to see what actions and Genius types can work best for you. Then, using that experience, do something that has greater benefit.

Some issue here is that we are focused on the details of the goal rather than the perspective that achieving the goal entails.

The Genius works out the details about how to get there. You only need to focus the perspective using the elements. But here is the issue... don't focus on the goal. Create a sense of focus for the Genius using the elements. hope this helps :)

WhoooHooo! Good for you Dodec!

LOL! I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, he's in another country and without internet connection right now. But, I could think of something, I am sure. TY!

Defining it is quite easy. As follows:

Symbol #1: Space = spot in bank

Symbol #2: Space = grocery bag (could be any bag. You can just say that your Possibility is a grocery bag)

If you don't create 2 symbols then you're working with a space that includes bank+grocery bag, which is hard to measure because it may not be too related in your perspective. It would be a single space, and unlikely to be effective.

For each space, a new symbol. (However, you can use the same symbol for highly similar spaces. It won't be as effective as using a separate symbol but it would still work.)

Yes, it helps a lot. Thank you so much. And, I like the idea of waking up the subconscious by doing crazy and strange things, heh!

that's about it ;)

in this physicality it works with the neurons in your brain (both are representations of something else).

The Genius is part of neuronics in Ecsys. But for now I think doing it on-the-fly is a bit complicated.

It also requires extremely fast processing and thinking, which is difficult to do without a language like Ec (or similar).

I was not asking to have you do it, I was requesting your participation. I don't have any reason to think an arrow with an X means anything but I sense you would suggest I go with another symbol. Fair enough and thank you.