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CatCarel User ID: 23708875 United States 11/23/2012 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that the video was created at the same time as ecsys.org, but I'm not sure... I remember Chaol speaking about a friend who came here to 'this universe' with him but I can't find the reply anymore. Quoting: Gespenst @CatCarel, the site is wonderful! Awesome work! And something that I think that's interesting: Chaol said that "Stories will be written about the next month." (December), and I found this yesterday: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Maybe it's the begining? Mars! Cat |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have done a lot of good with that site, CatCarel. I go there at least once a week. Reading some of the things that you have dug up and linked to has set me rambling off in weird directions. Thanks for making the effort. (btw, are you the one who created that cool video about the Fibonacci numbers? Even Chaol used it in one his replies.) Do you happen to have a pdf of Chaol's thread, Calling All Great Minds? ;o) "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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Marshwiggle User ID: 28273198 United Kingdom 11/23/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A review just in case anyone (besides myself) needs it: Quoting: Unit3 For neuronic exercises there's the Code of Ecsys. By practicing one or more the following simple exercises every day you are learning how to remove physical constraints from your reality. Here's a summary of the Code: House of Orbia Respect the logic of others. Try to understand whatever you resist. Exercise 'unlogic' by asking yourself, “How could I be wrong?” House of Kosmosis Explore what is outside of your usual perspective. Do things you would not ordinarily do. House of Chaos Be honest with the people and things around you. The more transparent you are the more you are connecting with your perceptions. House of ThohT Make your thoughts and desires physical in a small way. Symbolize your internal reality in your physical reality. Great stuff! Nice and simple, ty |
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Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Critical mass (or tipping point) within the collective. Also called the 100th monkey effect. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472768 Canada 11/23/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Critical mass (or tipping point) within the collective. Also called the 100th monkey effect. [link to en.wikipedia.org] There is only one perspective. What is a collective - it is all you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1472768 Canada 11/23/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mars is a value in your perspective. What do you think it represents? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1472768 That's a good point! I wonder what Mars represents? How do we investigate that? Through good old, reliable Sekhmet? For me Mars represents war. You can check in with Sekhmet and report back. |
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madcaddy User ID: 27679948 Hungary 11/23/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. |
Jesse Sovoda User ID: 11481360 United States 11/23/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol: I noticed that whenever someone talks about the soul, you keep acting like you don't know we are talking about. If you think there is only perspective (relationship of symbols), but no soul, how do you describe happiness? What is happiness then? What is love then? Quoting: madcaddy Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. What if the "feelings" are a symbol within your perspective as well? You only feel what you do because of what you believe you've experienced up until now. You (whether you believe me or not) do choose how "things" make you "feel". Does a soul have to exist to have feelings? If so, perhaps your definition of a soul and Chaol's definition of perspective may be the same thing. Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
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Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol: I noticed that whenever someone talks about the soul, you keep acting like you don't know we are talking about. If you think there is only perspective (relationship of symbols), but no soul, how do you describe happiness? What is happiness then? What is love then? Quoting: madcaddy Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. What if the "feelings" are a symbol within your perspective as well? You only feel what you do because of what you believe you've experienced up until now. You (whether you believe me or not) do choose how "things" make you "feel". Does a soul have to exist to have feelings? If so, perhaps your definition of a soul and Chaol's definition of perspective may be the same thing. Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460024 Canada 11/23/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol: I noticed that whenever someone talks about the soul, you keep acting like you don't know we are talking about. If you think there is only perspective (relationship of symbols), but no soul, how do you describe happiness? What is happiness then? What is love then? Quoting: madcaddy Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. Emotions represent possibility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460024 Canada 11/23/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? Quoting: Unit3 In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? There is nothing beyond perspective. It's a mathematical impossibility. All that is and isn't = perspective. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27574130 United States 11/23/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Chaol, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130 I was wondering where the first eternal spirit originated from, if it was first surrounded by black nothingness? Thanks Everything is nothing and nothing is everything. Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything? Thanks |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? Quoting: Unit3 In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? There is nothing beyond perspective. It's a mathematical impossibility. All that is and isn't = perspective. Did you create yourself? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 Canada 11/23/2012 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Chaol, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130 I was wondering where the first eternal spirit originated from, if it was first surrounded by black nothingness? Thanks Everything is nothing and nothing is everything. Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything? Thanks Nothing wants to be nothing. To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 Canada 11/23/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? Quoting: Unit3 In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? There is nothing beyond perspective. It's a mathematical impossibility. All that is and isn't = perspective. Did you create yourself? Is that possible? If you are perspective and perspective is everything could you create yourself? Could you even perceive yourself? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 Canada 11/23/2012 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Chaol, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130 I was wondering where the first eternal spirit originated from, if it was first surrounded by black nothingness? Thanks Everything is nothing and nothing is everything. Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything? Thanks Nothing wants to be nothing. To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before red decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet. |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? Quoting: Unit3 In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? There is nothing beyond perspective. It's a mathematical impossibility. All that is and isn't = perspective. Did you create yourself? Is that possible? If you are perspective and perspective is everything could you create yourself? Could you even perceive yourself? Doesn't perspective indicate an observer? Chaol says we will learn that WE CREATE OUR PERSPECTIVE! If this is so, then someone is creating the perspective and this someone also observes it. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 Canada 11/23/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1460024 There is nothing beyond perspective. It's a mathematical impossibility. All that is and isn't = perspective. Did you create yourself? Is that possible? If you are perspective and perspective is everything could you create yourself? Could you even perceive yourself? Doesn't perspective indicate an observer? Chaol says we will learn that WE CREATE OUR PERSPECTIVE! If this is so, then someone is creating the perspective and this someone also observes it. Perception is creation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 Canada 11/23/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is that possible? If you are perspective and perspective is everything could you create yourself? Could you even perceive yourself? Doesn't perspective indicate an observer? Chaol says we will learn that WE CREATE OUR PERSPECTIVE! If this is so, then someone is creating the perspective and this someone also observes it. Perception is creation. Further. You aren't perceiving something that is already there. The act of perceiving creates what is there. |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 11/23/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556 Is that possible? If you are perspective and perspective is everything could you create yourself? Could you even perceive yourself? Doesn't perspective indicate an observer? Chaol says we will learn that WE CREATE OUR PERSPECTIVE! If this is so, then someone is creating the perspective and this someone also observes it. Perception is creation. Further. You aren't perceiving something that is already there. The act of perceiving creates what is there. OK, I get this. But who is learning how to create perceptions? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |