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Anonymous Coward User ID: 805878 United States 11/15/2009 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So whats the answer? Feed all of Africa so there can be even more children to face starvation in the future? So you have to feed them in the future, then what? Even more children to feed. It's an ever growing problem akin the the trouble with tribbles. So you grow enough food for Africa to sustain itself. Well they use to aka zimbabwe. It's an all around messed up situation. Every twenty years you have twice the people to feed. After enough years there simply will not be enough food and people will starve. So while it sounds inhumane to say, let them starve now, is it more human to say let 8x's as many starve to death later? Because those are the options. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 693590 United States 11/15/2009 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a fact. However, there is another fact that is never discussed. What do their parents do aside from waiting around for handouts to better their lives, and themselves??? If these people would stop being so fricking selfish and actually work together, then their quality of life would increase. Instead they are wrapped up in their petty hatreds and tribal differences resulting in nothing more than the same shit we see on the streets here in the cities of America. Rape, murder, rob and steal... You cannot help those whom are unwilling to help themselves. Like pouring money into the sea... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819208 United States 11/15/2009 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The more I can see, the more I want to vomit! This world is so fucked up. [link to www.snopes.com] |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So whats the answer? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805878Feed all of Africa so there can be even more children to face starvation in the future? So you have to feed them in the future, then what? Even more children to feed. It's an ever growing problem akin the the trouble with tribbles. So you grow enough food for Africa to sustain itself. Well they use to aka zimbabwe. It's an all around messed up situation. Every twenty years you have twice the people to feed. After enough years there simply will not be enough food and people will starve. So while it sounds inhumane to say, let them starve now, is it more human to say let 8x's as many starve to death later? Because those are the options. There are lots of options. In the western world (Canada, U.K., and United States) alone, over 40% of the population is obese. The latest movie in Hollywood, Avatar, cost over one billion dollars to make. How many sports leagues have players earning multi-million dollar salaries. And you think letting people starve to death is okay? What the hell is the matter with you? Dropped on your head as a baby or something? Last Edited by lil*miss on 11/15/2009 09:19 PM |
Andromeda User ID: 818619 United States 11/15/2009 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... but in societies where people breed and breed regardless of the ability to feed themselves and their children, the only inevitable outcome is hunger. And if you feed them, they only grow to the new capacity of the food charity. If the world doesn't embrace birth control this problem will continue and grow. |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819208 That photo is a very good reason to care. If it doesn't make you feel sick, you aren't human. |
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lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw an article today that the number of hungry people has passed 1 billion, or almost 1 in 6 people on the planet live with hunger. That's horrible... Quoting: Andromeda... but in societies where people breed and breed regardless of the ability to feed themselves and their children, the only inevitable outcome is hunger. And if you feed them, they only grow to the new capacity of the food charity. If the world doesn't embrace birth control this problem will continue and grow. Birth control is a very valid point, but until we educate the women on these continents, it isn't going to happen. You can sponsor two girls to go to school and qualify for a teacher on less than one hundred dollars. The more educated these women become, the lower the birthrate. Those are facts that can be googled with very little effort. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 805878 United States 11/15/2009 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lots of options. In the western world (Canada, U.K., and United States) alone, over 40% of the population is obese. Quoting: lil*missThe latest movie in Hollywood, Avatar, cost over 0ne billion dollars to make. How many sports leagues have players earning multi-million dollar salaries. And you think letting people starve to death is okay? What the hell is the matter with you? Dropped on your head as a baby or something? Twice I was dropped on my head as a child. Sadly it made me a realist. You feed one child and suddenly 25 years later you have to feed 12 more. Anyone that adopts a child for food aid should become required for life to feed all that persons offspring. All of them. It is not sustainable. I'd rather 20 million starve to death in 10 years than 1 billion in 60. See preventing mass death by culling the herd is natural. Some have to die so the rest can live, or else the entire herd is eventually threatened. But whatever, by your shortsightedness, you will actually increase suffering in the long-term, and not alleviate it. |
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Andromeda User ID: 818619 United States 11/15/2009 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw an article today that the number of hungry people has passed 1 billion, or almost 1 in 6 people on the planet live with hunger. That's horrible... Quoting: lil*miss... but in societies where people breed and breed regardless of the ability to feed themselves and their children, the only inevitable outcome is hunger. And if you feed them, they only grow to the new capacity of the food charity. If the world doesn't embrace birth control this problem will continue and grow. Birth control is a very valid point, but until we educate the women on these continents, it isn't going to happen. You can sponsor two girls to go to school and qualify for a teacher on less than one hundred dollars. The more educated these women become, the lower the birthrate. Those are facts that can be googled with very little effort. +1. This is true. |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not sustainable. I'd rather 20 million starve to death in 10 years than 1 billion in 60. See preventing mass death by culling the herd is natural. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805878Some have to die so the rest can live, or else the entire herd is eventually threatened. But whatever, by your shortsightedness, you will actually increase suffering in the long-term, and not alleviate it. I guess culling the herd is acceptable until TPTB decide that you're the one who needs to be culled. I stood up for no one, and then when they came for me there was no one left...... |
malu User ID: 800077 United States 11/15/2009 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lots of options. In the western world (Canada, U.K., and United States) alone, over 40% of the population is obese. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805878The latest movie in Hollywood, Avatar, cost over 0ne billion dollars to make. How many sports leagues have players earning multi-million dollar salaries. And you think letting people starve to death is okay? What the hell is the matter with you? Dropped on your head as a baby or something? Twice I was dropped on my head as a child. Sadly it made me a realist. You feed one child and suddenly 25 years later you have to feed 12 more. Anyone that adopts a child for food aid should become required for life to feed all that persons offspring. All of them. It is not sustainable. I'd rather 20 million starve to death in 10 years than 1 billion in 60. See preventing mass death by culling the herd is natural. Some have to die so the rest can live, or else the entire herd is eventually threatened. But whatever, by your shortsightedness, you will actually increase suffering in the long-term, and not alleviate it. this person is correct , imho. life is a lot of things, but it is not fair. i have done mission work outside of the usa, and i will do more, i work with abused women and children, i help out with the homeless, as i have been there. this world could easily feed ten billion people, but it never will, because life is just not fair, and many in power are just evil. there also has to be quality in life, not just another human eating and pooping, there has to be something of substance in between those activities. this is why there are laws of nature, to preserve the whole. if people out breed their ability to care for their population, they will die. charity only gives false hope and delays the inevitable. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just the waisted food, thrown out leftovers and such, discarded, unsold foods in this country alone would probably make a huge dent in world hunger. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792499Exactly, and because of health regulations, leftover buffet food, and wilted vegetables(which have some nutrition, and are better than nothing) are thrown out. There are homeless and hungry here who could benefit. And they aren't sitting on their asses waiting for a handout. This recession is not their fault. Waste not want not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 805878 United States 11/15/2009 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look im not a heartless piece of shit. I'd prefer noone in the entire world starve to death. But, there is an expression, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Let me give you an example. If no one was allowed to hunt deer, the deer population explodes. A few years later many many many dead starve to death in the winter. Bird populations are destroyed because all the underbrush is gone, so many that do live have fewer places to lay eggs. Wouldn't it be better to prevent such population density to begin with? If people refuse to take responsibility for having 10 kids they cannot feed, then why the fuck should others have to take up the slack. I feel sorry for the children in that situation, but suppose I do send them enough rice or flour to not starve to death, then what? If they took responsibility and only had a few kids each it would have been worth the effort to save them, but odds are they will each have 10. Now we have 101 mouths to feed. Damn. See where this is headed? Anyways, you can feed them all if you wish, an I hope you the best in your attempts. As for me, I refuse to perpetuate the cycle of poverty. |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this person is correct , imho. life is a lot of things, but it is not fair. i have done mission work outside of the usa, and i will do more, i work with abused women and children, i help out with the homeless, as i have been there. Quoting: maluthis world could easily feed ten billion people, but it never will, because life is just not fair, and many in power are just evil. there also has to be quality in life, not just another human eating and pooping, there has to be something of substance in between those activities. this is why there are laws of nature, to preserve the whole. if people out breed their ability to care for their population, they will die. charity only gives false hope and delays the inevitable. I don't think you truly believe that or you wouldn't be doing all of that work. You are making an effort in the war against poverty. I don't think you feel you are wasting your time, as you are signing up for more. You may be pragmatic, but not heartless. I know for a fact that you can buy goats, and cows, and educate children for less than five hundred bucks. A well costs another five hundred. If you don't need a new cell phone or Iphone or Ipod for Christmas, you could ask for that. Last Edited by lil*miss on 11/15/2009 09:37 PM |
lil*miss (OP) User ID: 803442 Canada 11/15/2009 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please, invoking the Holocaust already are we? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805878As for me, I refuse to perpetuate the cycle of poverty. No one has invoked the Holocaust here at all. But this is a huge forum, and if we can educate some people on how to teach others to be self sustaining it harms no one. If you don't like the topic, don't click on the thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819418 United States 11/15/2009 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, maybe if their parents got a job or get an education they wouldn't be in such a mess, so who cares. I'm only kidding, but I imagine that's the sentiment of the average GLP person, cause I find many who come to this site to be evil. You mention that every six second a child dies of starvation and any feeling of sadness is immediately pushed back by a defensive posture, I guess because they think helping them would be socialism which they associate with Obama. But actually I think it's much deeper than that. I haven't read any comments yet, but I imagine many of them will lack compassion. |
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Storm User ID: 779169 United States 11/15/2009 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. -Thomas Jefferson Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. —Raymond Chandler, 1944 Is man an ape or an angel? Now I am on the side of the angels. —Benjamin Disraeli, 1864 I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. James A. Baldwin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819418 United States 11/15/2009 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, maybe if their parents got a job or get an education they wouldn't be in such a mess, so who cares. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819418I'm only kidding, but I imagine that's the sentiment of the average GLP person, cause I find many who come to this site to be evil. You mention that every six second a child dies of starvation and any feeling of sadness is immediately pushed back by a defensive posture, I guess because they think helping them would be socialism which they associate with Obama. But actually I think it's much deeper than that. I haven't read any comments yet, but I imagine many of them will lack compassion. Judging from my experience on GLP. |
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malu User ID: 800077 United States 11/15/2009 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this person is correct , imho. life is a lot of things, but it is not fair. i have done mission work outside of the usa, and i will do more, i work with abused women and children, i help out with the homeless, as i have been there. Quoting: lil*missthis world could easily feed ten billion people, but it never will, because life is just not fair, and many in power are just evil. there also has to be quality in life, not just another human eating and pooping, there has to be something of substance in between those activities. this is why there are laws of nature, to preserve the whole. if people out breed their ability to care for their population, they will die. charity only gives false hope and delays the inevitable. I don't think you truly believe that or you wouldn't be doing all of that work. You are making and effort in the war against poverty. I don't think you feel you are wasting your time, as you are signing up for more. You may be pragmatic, but not heartless. I know for a fact that you can buy goats, and cows, and educate children for less than five hundred bucks. A well costs another five hundred. If you don't need a new cell phone or Iphone or Ipod for Christmas, you could ask for that. i agree, but yes i am a realist. i do what i can and could probably do more. you can not help people that won't help themselves, that is a fact, so i think discretion needs to be used when giving a hand i deal with addicts/alcoholics in recovery everyday, as i am one, and i know that 90% will die, active in addiction. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 812062 United States 11/15/2009 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693590However, there is another fact that is never discussed. What do their parents do aside from waiting around for handouts to better their lives, and themselves??? If these people would stop being so fricking selfish and actually work together, then their quality of life would increase. Instead they are wrapped up in their petty hatreds and tribal differences resulting in nothing more than the same shit we see on the streets here in the cities of America. Rape, murder, rob and steal... You cannot help those whom are unwilling to help themselves. Like pouring money into the sea... |
Storm User ID: 779169 United States 11/15/2009 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Though there is help for the starving should they happen to pass out on top of a marketable resource. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. -Thomas Jefferson Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. —Raymond Chandler, 1944 Is man an ape or an angel? Now I am on the side of the angels. —Benjamin Disraeli, 1864 I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. James A. Baldwin |
Storm User ID: 779169 United States 11/15/2009 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you do for the LEAST of your brethren you do for ME! Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. -Thomas Jefferson Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. —Raymond Chandler, 1944 Is man an ape or an angel? Now I am on the side of the angels. —Benjamin Disraeli, 1864 I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. James A. Baldwin |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 810923 Canada 11/15/2009 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey at that rate we should run out of hungry kids in short order. The you can stop bitching. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 362078Sick... So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Princess Bride User ID: 819022 United States 11/15/2009 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not completely sure educating the women in some of these societies is the answer. The problem is cultural and the entire society needs educating. What needs to happen is for the women who are educated to have opportunities in their societies, outside of marriage. One of the biggest problems is the tremendous pressure these women are put under to have children. They are subjected to terrible brutality, such as FGM. Then they are essentially chattle and forced into marriage at tender ages. What is really astounding, and has been found to be the case in many of these places, is that the men are resistant to using birth control and refuse to be educated on the value of it. They refuse to cooperate with various b.c. methods. Unfortunately, they view women and their children as their property and treat them with indiffernce on a par with the worst cases of animal abuse. If the women could be empowered and the men could see tangible benefits from that empowerment, then maybe there could be some hope. Otherwise, starvation will be the sad and deplorable outcome. As it stands, those men are currently to selfish to care about their own flesh and blood and only look to their own pleasure with no regard for humanity or the futre. Sadly, you see a lot of these same heartless and cruel attitudes towards women and children in our own society expressed most clearly right on GLP. No one really talks like they do on this forum IRL. Here we read the sick, unvarnished truth. Heart of the heroes, ride. Up through an empty house of stars, Being what heart you are, Up the inhuman steeps of space As on a staircase go in grace, Carrying the firelight on your face Beyond the loneliest star. "The Ballad Of The White Horse," G. K. Chesterton spam [link to lunarose47.wordpress.com] blog[/url] spam [link to w11.haters] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 792499 United States 11/15/2009 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812062However, there is another fact that is never discussed. What do their parents do aside from waiting around for handouts to better their lives, and themselves??? If these people would stop being so fricking selfish and actually work together, then their quality of life would increase. Instead they are wrapped up in their petty hatreds and tribal differences resulting in nothing more than the same shit we see on the streets here in the cities of America. Rape, murder, rob and steal... You cannot help those whom are unwilling to help themselves. Like pouring money into the sea... idiot, devoid of understanding or compassion. likely you will wind up in the same hopeless boat they are now in when tshtf. Many of these people would just get a few bullets through their skull from their own rogue governments for even trying to help themselves. |
Princess Bride User ID: 819022 United States 11/15/2009 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i agree, but yes i am a realist. i do what i can and could probably do more. you can not help people that won't help themselves, that is a fact, so i think discretion needs to be used when giving a hand i deal with addicts/alcoholics in recovery everyday, as i am one, and i know that 90% will die, active in addiction. Addiction is a worldwide problem, but it doesn't follow that all poor in the third world are poor due to addiction or lack of motivation to help themselves. Something bigger went wrong then malingering. Look to our religions, colonialism and the destroyed cultures that resulted, polygamy, misogyny, oppression, sex slavery and a plethera of all sorts of factors that war on the people of the earth. Don't get me wrong, addiction is one fo those factors, but only one. It's the one that kills the pain from all the others. Heart of the heroes, ride. Up through an empty house of stars, Being what heart you are, Up the inhuman steeps of space As on a staircase go in grace, Carrying the firelight on your face Beyond the loneliest star. "The Ballad Of The White Horse," G. K. Chesterton spam [link to lunarose47.wordpress.com] blog[/url] spam [link to w11.haters] |