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[quote:PehJeshuah 3584074:MV8xMzYyNjQ5XzI3ODM1Njg4X0U3MDI4QkQ1] [quote:PehJeshuah 730917:MV8xMzYyNjQ5XzI3ODE1NTIxXzFDQjczNkMy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1450086:MV8xMzYyNjQ5XzI2NzMxNTE0X0U1NzNFQ0Q4] [quote:D 1509124:MV8xMzYyNjQ5XzI2NzAwNjQwXzYyMzM3RjY4] You intially said that we might ask the two witnesses 'what do we need to do to recieve salvation?'. I tell you now that God can speak through anything or anyone. The truth can come from the most unlkikely sources. Let us not depend on these two to provide the truths that have, for long ages and since the foundation of the world, already been disclosed. They will indeed deliver the gospel as a witness to all the world. This does not mean we should wait on them to recive and act on the truth. The Kingdom of God is coming, it is near, it is at the door we can do nothing but repent and believe. THIS is what we must do to gain salvation. Turn from the self and acquire the divine nature of God (repent) and believe that the Kingdom is immenant. ---| Of course in order to enter any house or stronghold one must enter by the door and that door is Jesus Christ. AND we can enter no other way. For He died that we may be saved, and HE LIVES so that we may be perfected. THIS is the gift and grace of God that through one man's death AND life many can live. ---| God Bless you (HUG) D. [/quote] I'm not saying the gospel of eternal salvation cannot come through anything or anybody. For example, someone may look up at the skies and see clouds of mystery forming, someone may see beauty in the some of God's ugliest creatures, God can form anything he chooses out of nothing, he can save anybody with a repentant heart. But.. I am looking forward to the two witnesses arrival to witness their supernatural capabilities, they are forerunners of Christ, they will provide hope to those willing to die to self. They belong to God, therefore they belong to the mystery of God.. I think we can agree to that, they will bring about many revelations of God's Word, I AM looking forward to that, I enjoy anything about learning and growing in God's Word. BTW, thanks for the e-hug, I hug you back fellow brother. [/quote] Dear 1450086 from the States, Whoever wants to see and recognize God's lifegiving truth ought to know what dangers he or she will face in that search, for there are inumerable false claims nowadays as to what it is. Firstly, we ought to know that the apostolic church is fallen. Instead of it there are now on earth lots of totally different churches that without exception are false. They constitute the spiritual night that Jesus foretold to come in saying that nobody would be able to work during it. Secondly, the two witnesses will be speaking about that terrible falling-away and guide ppl who care out of it. Thirdly, they come before the coming horrible days of tribulation and warn the people who care about the prophetic word and its revelations. After their having testified the truth Isa 24 will be fulfilled, which means that a vast amount of people will die in a devastating war. During that war God's people are still on earth, Isa 24:16, for there will be no resurrection of the bodily dead until the very last day, nor will anybody be taken up to heaven before that time. The so-called rapture theory is a human figment and totally false. As regards the question how we may become God's children, we must not overlook the fact that exactly that is what the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb (mentioned in Rev 15:3) is all about. Let me explain it to you in short. When a person realizes that he or she is a sinner and needs God's forgiveness through the redeeming sacrifice of Jesus Christ, praying for it, then he or she will notice that there is another will inside him or her, such as is totally opposite to the will of God. The song of Moses means that God's law is given to enact obedience inside us to the will of God, for it is said: The one who commits sin shall die, Ezek 18:20! Nevertheless, God wants us to live! In Mark 9:49 Jesus says that everyone will be salted with fire, (and every sacrifice will be salted with salt), and that is exactly what happens to you and everyone who decides to do the will of God. The opposite will inside you, in your members, which Paul the apostle calls "a different law", Rom 7:23, is what must be sacrificed, i.e. "salted with fire" (condemned by God's law), but it cannot come true in you if you do not persevere in following the will of God, even though it will be to you like being "salted with fire". Jesus did not die to redeem that opposite evil will working in your members against God's will, so that is why you must sacrifice him to the Law of Moses. This is what the song of Moses means, and this is what the "baptism of repentance" that John preached when Jesus came to him, symbolizes. When Jesus asked to be baptized with that baptism of repentance John at first denied him it, for he knew that Jesus was not a sinner. This shows us that John's baptism symbolizes the spiritual fight in every Christian against the will of sin, for that will does not want to be baptized with salt, i.e. God's law that condemns sin. Notice what Jesus answered to John the Baptizer in Mat 3:15: [b]"in this way it is fitting for us TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS."[/b] As sinners having an evil will in our members there is only one way for us to fulfill all righteousness, namely to oppose and sacrifice that God-opposing will of the Devil inside us to be condemned and killed by the Holy Law in our members. In doing so we sing the Song of Moses. When we persevere in doing so in faith to God's law and will, that evil will steadily loses more and more of its power over us in us, even to the extent that Scripture likens to death. That is how our old will dies and how we are said to be made to die to the law, Rom 7:4. What then happens? Well, since we gave over our evil will God will give birth to a new will inside us, that is Jesus our Saviour. He says in John 4:34 that "My food is to do the will of God." We cannot do the will of God, for our will, the old and evil one, is under the Law, condemned by Moses, the servant of God. Our will that used to be our master and who thus was "our first husband", Rom 7:1-3, has no power over us any longer, for Jesus Christ has now become our will and master, and we His servants. Now we ought to understand Rom 6:16: "Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, [b]you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?[/b] Read Acts 19:1-5 and realize that baptism by water in the name of Jesus Christ symbolizes this spiritual baptism by which Jesus becomes the new will in us, and He is not under the Law but upon it. In like manner He lifts us up, the widows of our now dead first husband, to above the Law and makes that Law a street of gold for us to follow. This is the second part of the song, namely the Song of the Lamb, and if we want to be saved we are bound to be salted with this fire as told by Jesus in Mark 9:47. Therefore, if you want to be true Christian, you must learn the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb as I have expounded it for you here. Nobody who fails to learn that composite song will be saved! Take this, eat my words from Scripture, for the witness of God has spoken to you! Greetings from PehJeshuah [/quote] Whoever rejects this true scriptural testimony shall lose his or her life, no matter how spiritually sound that person person insists himself or herself to be! Greetings from PehJeshuah [b]"Lift not up your horn on high; Speak not with a stiff neck. For neither from the east, nor from the west, Nor yet from the south, cometh lifting up."[/b] (Psa 75:5-6 ASV) [/quote]
Original Message
I think they arrived in 2008.
The Two Witnesses prophecy and the 1260 days found in Revelation chapter
11 represent an area of great interest for many Christians.
Many anxiously await the arrival of the two witnesses described in
Revelation 11:3-13.
According to Rev 11:4 these two witnesses represent;
The Two Olive Trees and The Two Lampstands.
To clarify the symbolism it is necessary to consider
both the text of Revelation chapter 11 and also the
portrayal of the two olive trees and the one lampstand
mentioned in Zechariah chapter 4.
olives
However, surprisingly the vital clue to understanding the 2 witnesses
prophecy is the period of their witness, ie '1260 days'.
Rev 11:3 mentions 1260 days, but many overlook that Rev 12:6 also uses
the same expression!
Many would be surprised to learn the 'Woman, Child and Dragon' account
found in Revelation chapter 12 is the area of Scripture most closely
connected with the two witnesses prophecy.
What could Revelation chapter 11 have to do with chapter 12? At first sight
these two accounts seem to have nothing in common. (The two witnesses story
appears to be placed in the future and the woman/child/dragon narrative
appears to be discussing the birth of Jesus Christ and the persecution of
the church.)
Yet, these two accounts both quote the period,
'one thousand two hundred and sixty days'.
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