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[quote:johnlear:MV8xNDY4MjE0XzI0MjEzNzAxX0JFRUM5M0I4] [quote:Stupidlikeafox™] What really happened between you and the brass (Springer mainly I assume) at ATS? I read bits and pieces on ATS and thelivingmoon (i think), but never really understood the whole thing [/quote] I supported the Bill Meier case and J. Ritzman used unnecessary fowl and dirty language talking to me. I complained to Septic and he said I was lieing about Ritzman and banned me. When he checked he found that Ritzman had deleted his comments and then lied about it. Septic then told me to forget about it and start posting again. I felt that Septic owed me an apology because he posted the comment that I was suspected of lieing. He said he didn't. I then went to OMF. I was never banned by ATS. [/quote]
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