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Subject HOW CAN A PERSON KNOW IF THEY WERE EVER A VICTIM OF MKULTRA OR MONARCH PROGRAMMING?

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And now a few words from your program sponser:

Wouldn't the healthier question to ask be: "how does a person deprogram from mk and/or monarch programming"?

There are many people who are programmed who are NOT mk or monarch programmed. Also, having a parent in the military or in the masons is NOT an immediate indicator of being programmed. Some are chosen because of their genetics. REMEMBER - genetic experiments, aryans and all the other hoopla.  A pure genetic race is easier to program.

Most, if not all programs, have anti sabotage and self destruct elements installed within them.

Zakks page and writings are indeed typical of a programed person and like many of the others who have written their experiences here, as well as the title of this thread see themselves as victims, powerless victims.

As a victim, the perosn is more concerned with the wound ie psychological hurt, weird event and processing and reprocessing the unknown. This serves a couple of different functions. The first keeps the victim from being healthy enough to have a healthy life that is true to what THEY desire, the other is to keep the program running.

Your dreams and the imagery from your meditations allow the easiest window into the workings of your mind. You can infact find that you will be comminicating with other beings I suppose such as Zakk does, but not being able to keep them out should be a clear message to yourself that you are not strengthening your own energetic abilities. Why is this important? Because programming is not only done physically, but also inter dimensionally - ie the dream state, or corrupted dream state. Some programmed people wrongfully blame their parents for sexually abusing them when it was done astrally or else programmers made a personal visit, in any case the memory is corrupted.

Undo your programming slowly and remain grounded and energetically pure...meaning move your energy, absorb positive earth energetics and understand symbolism.
 Try not to let the imagery or memories scare you, resolve them rebalance, ground and move forward slowly and harm no person or yourself.

I now return you to your ... oh, sorry that program is now

CANCELLED              CANCELLED          CANCELLED

Does this provide some of the clarity you need right now?
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Original Message What if you have no evidence of such, but there have been strange things happen your entire life?

What about memories that you are not sure if they actually happened or you just dreamed them?

And how would a 30 something yr old adult, know if they were ever abused as a child, but most likely not by parents?

I have many many questions, and absolutely no answers!

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