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How did Jesus' death wash away our sins?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 54629696:MV8xNTc3MDg0XzQyOTU5OTUzX0U2QkNFRUIw] [quote:Scrodiddles:MV8xNTc3MDg0XzY1NUIxMEZE] I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins". And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate. So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable? It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected? [/quote] Picture sin as a liquid. This liquid has 2 cups. 2 cups of sin have to be drank by Christ. He uses his body that can easily house the divine, to become sin itself. He lets his body do the purification of this liquid (aka sin). He gets hurt, hanged onto a tree, and then dies. He gets buried in a rich man's tomb. On the third day he resurrects. That same liquid that passed through his body is now in a different form. It is a type of energy that he can easily overcome, the world itself is better for it; because he purified the liquid using his body. He became altered from carrying sin, he changed the cost of that sin. This liquid is the total sum of all evil deeds ever done. This means that if anyone ever aborted a child, murdered, or cheated on their spouse (among other things). Was responsible for creating this liquid that was destroying creation. Why would that be important? Well there is this reality that was made so perfect, so flawless, and required no suffering or death. But this liquid brought death and suffering to all people, this liquid (sin) could not be stopped. It just kept building up. So, the Maker of this reality either has to hit the reset button or purge the flawed reality using a vessel (Christ). Now remember, the Maker could have easily hit the reset button. But in his flawless and most perfect thinking; he gave everyone a chance, a way out. He sent someone bold enough, strong enough, someone who was "him" in all sense of the word, yet also a person. This Christ figure who desired to please the Maker, to ensure salvation was brought into creation. The Maker refused to give up on a corrupted reality, and instead sent a part of himself to fix reality itself. It was not the Maker's fault that it became corrupted, but the people. If you believe the Christ destroyed this liquid (sin) then you will be welcomed to join in on the entire redemption process. This process is called an era, and era in which we go back to the flawless and perfect world. Remember, all it takes is to believe that someone did this for you. You'll get the new body, new soul, and new name, This name will be greater than anything that was from the world, because it will come from the most HIGH. Salvation or separation, the choice is yours. Make the choice wisely or you will be part of the old reality in which sin still existed. If you are part of the old system, you will have to purge your own liquid and suffer for your own corruption (which will most likely delete you). I hope that made sense, OP. I really do! [/quote]
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I am actually being sincere here. I was raised in a Southern Babtist home and have read the bible a fair share of times, but I am at a total loss when it comes to understanding how Jesus dying on the cross translates into me being forgiven for my "sins".
And please don't just post scripture that just states it matter-of-factly as if I should ignore that we live in a world where things have to correlate.
So they torture him, place him on a cross, and then wait for him to die. He passes away, is reborn and then ascends to heaven. Now I get forgiven if I have impatient thoughts? How does that work? Did he die, go to heaven and flip on a breaker switch, resurrect on earth to check if it worked and then just strolled on back to heaven? What happened during his death that made our sins forgivable?
It's like a father bursting through the door and telling his son that cursing is now allowed in the house because he hit a deer on the way home. How in the world is it connected?
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