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PART TWO HERE! Thread: The Truth of Our Origins... PART TWO!!
Everything you know is WRONG. The government is corrupt, science is invalid, and religion is irrational.
Please be aware that I am obligated to question mostly science in this thread. I am very spiritual and I try to help and ease as many as I can through this small spark of consciousness I call my life.
(Sorry for posting so late! Im on a trip to Florida to visit some old friends. It has taken me almost 4-5 hours, pecking at the keyboard on my phone.)
When you seek a path to any new truth, you must expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard
An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs. Wilhelm Reich
When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads. Ron Paul
For every PhD., there is an equal and opposite PhD. Gibson’s Law
Anyone can pilot an improbability, but it takes a special touch to fly and safely land an absurdity. Kurt Kuzba
A genius is someone who aims at a target no one else can see—and hits it! Anthony Quinn
The main purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated. Dr. Stephen Rorke
You can sum up the entirety of this document as being the answer to the question.. "If Bigfoot exists, along with 3 other types, then if all 4 early "prehuman" bones belong to them... How did we get here?
I am going to break down the "Intervention Theory in 3 phases...
How life became on Earth. Who are the Hominids, and a general conclusion. I will try to keep everything short. You guys are lucky I am pecking at the keyboard rather than screaming in some of your faces... =]
So, again, instead of me screaming..."WE ARE A GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SPECIES.. WANT PROOF!?!" in your faces like I normally do to people, Please check out any other breaking news, and hopefully return and continue on down below for some more shocking research.
The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of ironsilicate dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) supercluster would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made so that I could exist!” Peter Walker
Statements made by alternative researchers like me are automatically contradicted by scientists insisting we are not simply wrong, but stupidly wrong. They further insist we have no right to challenge their cherished beliefs because our only “credentials” are an unwarranted faith in our ability to discern truth from nonsense.
[This doesn’t refer to all scientists. Some still willingly risk reputation and security to explore topics that defy dogma. However, they are few.] Every point I discuss is supported by facts in available research, but I am often criticized by skeptics. Why? Because the issues I discuss are long-lived sacred cows to mainstream sciences.
Creationists of all kinds, which includes the smarter, more reasonable, and typically wellcredentialed Intelligent Design proponents, insist the only answer to questions about the origins of life or humans is: “God did it!”
Darwinists of all stripes insist with equal zeal that their pet theory of evolution best explains how life originated. Their 150-year-old dogma asserts: “It just happened—poof!—like magic!” After the magic moment when life kick-started itself into existence, it initiated a self-contained and imperceptibly slow-but-steady growth into ever more complex forms, until those reached the apex of an arduous climb—humanity.
In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on evidence rather than faith, on logic rather than magic. We don’t think that God did it, or that life spontaneously generated.
For us, evidence and logic point to the same “outside intervention” Intelligent Designers see. However, where they feel the only outside source of intervention must be God (whom they are careful to not mention by name), we suggest another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”
Who are “They”? The currently favored term is Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities. With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most of his material, I will try to make a valid point... That we, as a species are in fact an oddball of mother nature.
The sad truth is that in every field of science, Young Turks have to serve their leaders when those leaders are the oldest, crustiest, and most conservative members of the field. Then, when those old “defenders of the faith” die out, what were once Young Turks take over for them and are forced to defend the same bankrupt faith.
Now, what about the origin of life? When did it occur? How did it occur? The mainstream gives two options and rejects a third:
(1) They accept as a possibility Undirected Panspermia. This is the idea that life “drifts” across space carried on asteroids or meteors that crashed into Earth.
(2) They support the idea that life originates by Spontaneous Generation. This idea is that life was created by sheer chance when a lightning bolt struck a “warm pond” (a term coined by Charles Darwin) filled with what came to be called “primordial soup,” a form of witches’ brew containing the “building blocks” of life.
Experts insist that somehow, someway, those original molecules managed to spontaneously reassemble into ever more complex molecules that somehow, someway, formed themselves into the single cells of the earliest life forms.
The fact that spontaneous self-assembly into complex molecules does not happen now, nor can it be forced to happen in coherent patterns in the most sophisticated laboratories on Earth, should be an indication that this theory, like the gravity-based one of cosmologists, needs work. British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle summed up the problem neatly when he said the likelihood of a lightning bolt striking water to assemble simple molecules into a life form was equal to the likelihood of a tornado sweeping through a junkyard and correctly assembling a jetliner.
The third option, which the mainstream rejects, is Directed Panspermia, which is similar to undirected Panspermia, except that the first life forms were guided here by higher intelligence. Thus, the mainstream hangs its hat on a miracle worthy of God when a lightning bolt struck the “primordial soup” to forge basic molecules into simple life—or on a similarly unlikely miracle that simple life forms came here on meteors. The lightning-bolt-hits-primordial-soup theory is still taught around the world, but not because mainstream scientists regard it seriously. They know as well as anyone how absurd it sounds.
Unfortunately, they have no choice but to fake conviction about it because they have no other theory to take its place. Some few scientists do admit they have no plausible idea, but most of them insist on riding the same old lame horse. Like the equations of the cosmologists, which required “miracles” to make sense, the same is true for biologists. The same kinds of miracles are fudge-factored in to explain life, when they have answers that are as easy to grasp as the difference between gravity and electricity.
In the same way cosmologists stick with the mistake of gravity, biology’s mistake, the core of its ossified dogma, is that every aspect of life on Earth must be accounted for in a “natural” manner, in strictly terrestrial terms. To explain life by using “outside” factors is unacceptable, so alternate ideas are automatically discounted.
Its like the "Guilty until proven Innocent" of science.
Despite automatic rejection, alternative ideas for the origin of life make a much stronger case than biological dogma. Such ideas also hew far more closely to the actual facts of life than do the fantasies created by imaginative scientists. Life did not start by accident when lightning struck a warm pond of primordial soup. Its start was so unlikely, experts can’t begin to explain it rationally, so rather than try, they obscure it.
What Happened At 2.0 BYA? As if on cue, with oxygen present after the end of the first Snowball Earth, a new form of life appeared to live alongside the prokaryotes—the eukaryotes. To open minds, this could suggest that the Intragalactic Terraformers were also Life-Managers, or Overseers, or Manipulators.
I use the term “Terraformers” as others use "aliens,” which produces negative connotations in most media. “Terraformers” is more abstract and benign. Also, more than one kind can exist. If they are real, and if they did in fact develop life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they? And who created them? This leads to an endless hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer question: Who are their creators???
This brings up what is known as First Cause, the starting place for all of everything—of life and existence itself. No human actually knows anything about it, and we probably never will. I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to pretend that they actually do know the answer. Don’t believe either side. Religion and science stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself trying to discover what is actually knowable.
As with the prokaryotes, many kinds of the new eukaryotes arrived suddenly, and exactly when their much larger, vastly more complex singlecell bodies were capable of thriving in the new environment created by prokaryote metabolism. Biologists insist this is how classic Darwinian evolution works: when an environment presents an open niche, Nature will fill it. Unfortunately for them, evolution also requires “precursors,” forms of life that provide a base upon which to branch off a new form to fill an empty niche. Prokaryotes are many things, but they can’t be precursors for eukaryotes. A staggering number of physical and biological differences between them make a direct Darwinian “descent with modification” impossible.
It couldn’t happen, especially not “overnight,” which is seemingly how fast they arrived. Yet another miracle! Because direct descent can’t be used, our everimaginative “experts” came up with a flight of fancy equal to anything the cosmologists ever concocted to “explain” gravity’s weaknesses.
They suggest eukaryotes must have originated when larger prokaryotes became "cannibalistic" and consumed smaller ones, turning those into various functioning parts within their bodies, including the crucial, essential mitochondria. Is that theory likely? Not at all, not even in the ballpark. Understand that a long list of complex differences exists between the prokaryotes and eukaryotes. Size is the most obvious one, but an amazing array of metabolic advances (including an encapsulated nucleus) appeared with them.
This idea is wild speculation, but many strident people with a “Ph.D.” after their names insist it had to occur, and they are not shy about calling on “magic” and “miracles” to make their story plausible. It’s not quite the same as “God did it all!” but it does seem to come dubiously close.
However the eukaryotes appeared, though, they were a huge leap forward from the prokaryotes.
Any one of you can do this yourself. Translate the 4th tablet of the Sumerian Creation Epic...The Enuma E'lish.
You will find that the people of Sumeria, plausibly answer 6 of the worlds toughest astronomical, and geological questions!
Scientists of all trades do not genuinely know why our planet looks so much different, and has tectonic plates unlike the others.
They do not know where the asteroid belt came from, nor do they know why strange little Pluto is around 20 degrees off our stellar ecliptic.
First. Earth was dubbed "Tiamat" in the epic. They then say Nibiru (who is circling the sun clockwise on a 3600 year orbit) crashed into Tiamat. Tiamat cracked like an eggshell. This answers 4 of the questions I believe. With Pluto having been illustrated by the Sumerians to be a moon of Saturn, before Nibiru pulled it away.
They also say that during the collision, in the "mingling of their waters" Nibiru passed life to Tiamat. (life being early bacterium)
They also say when looking down from the heavens unto Uranus and Neptune, they seem like "blue green watery twins"... how did they know that?
Among other things...
(Yeah, I can write about 10 pages of red flags the people of Sumeria bring to the table, but that's another thread in entirety.
People. If you believe in bigfoot... you believe in the Intervention theory.
Why Can’t Hunters Find Them?
The Panda’s story is a perfect comparison with hominoids because they live in the same kind of habitat (montane forest) and terrain (mountains) as bigfoot/sasquatch and the almas/kaptar types, but their mountains are covered with bamboo. Written references to hominoids go back for hundreds of years, and such mentions are found in nearly every country. But the mainstream of each century has dismissed them as useless prattle. The same was once true for Pandas.
Ancient Chinese manuscripts often mentioned a creature known to them as a Bei-Shung, which meant white-bear. They were usually described precisely as they turned out to be: black-andwhite bears living in the rugged mountains of Sichuan, eating nothing but bamboo shoots. Every Western authority “knew” bears were omnivores, so the bamboo shoots were laughed off. Also, they “knew” bears could be black or brown or white, but surely not the black-andwhite coloring described by Chinese natives.
Most importantly, no Western authority had ever braved the rigors of traveling to China to study the matter, so they felt amply qualified to pronounce the Panda an amusing local legend. Finally, after 2,000 years of unaccepted reports, in 1869 a French missionary/naturalist named Father Armand David made his way to Sichuan Province. Like most naturalists, he knew of the legendary Bei-Shung, and he believed “official” assurances that duotoned, bamboo-eating bears were a highly embellished Chinese fable. Ultimately, Father David saw the full skin of one hung on a wall in a village elder’s home!
Finding out where it came from, he hurried to the Bei-Shung’s reported habitat, a bamboo forest high in a forbidding mountain range. Upon arrival, he tried to hire local hunters to bring him a living specimen. The locals were hesitant, saying the Bei-Shung lived in very rugged terrain and were extremely difficult to find and kill, much less to try to capture one. Father David took their reluctance as a ploy to extract more money from him, so he offered a handsome bonus. Chinese were loathe to give offense, so these agreed to take a crack at it. In one of history’s great quirks of fate, after only twelve days the Chinese hunters returned with a living Bei-Shung they insisted had been secured only by astounding good fortune.
Their protestations seemed unlikely, but Father David didn’t care if they were embellishing the difficulty of their task. He knew their captive would make history worldwide, so he didn’t concern himself with the circumstances of its capture or the high price he had paid for it. For as great as Father David’s good fortune was with the capture, his luck soured in transporting his prize back to France. After a few days on a ship, the wild Bei-Shung became so agitated that it began ramming itself relentlessly against the cage bars, clearly intent on breaking free of captivity or dying in the effort to escape. For humanitarian and moral reasons, Father David had no choice but to euthanize it.
Having to kill his precious prize was a terrible blow to Father David, who found solace knowing he could still achieve his main goal of proving beyond doubt that the Bei-Shungs did exist. If he could do that much by himself, he knew, well-equipped field teams would follow with sufficient methods of extracting the living Bei- Shungs they would no doubt easily capture. He sent his “legend’s” preserved remains to a Paris Museum, creating a worldwide sensation. Presaging what will probably happen after the first hominoid is officially presented in our own time, the world’s foremost scientific institutions in 1870 entered into a race to decide who would put the first living Bei-Shung on display.
They sent legions of topnotch experts—hunters, trappers, and scientists—swarming through the mountainous regions of Sichuan, a region the size of Arizona or Italy. All waited anxiously to see who would be the first to bring one in…. And they waited . . . and waited. By 1900—31 years since Father David’s find—all museums that financed expeditions had long since given up. By 1910, western media had renamed the Bei-Shungs Giant Pandas, and scientists had shoved them back into the mists of “legend.”
Despite Father David’s stuffed specimen being as real as it ever was, 41 years without so much as a follow-up sighting convinced most experts the panda was now extinct. Why? Because the men who had searched for it were all highly experienced woodsmen and skilled trappers. Cavorting around bamboo forests in Sichuan’s mountains looking for phantom pandas became a frontier jaunt for daring sportsmen with time and money to burn, like U. S. President Teddy Roosevelt’s two sons, Teddy, Jr., and Kermit. In 1929, exactly 60 years after Father David’s misadventure, Teddy spied a panda in a tree and shot it, sending a bullet through that poor animal to puncture innumerable scientific egos, and giving it an iconic name—Teddy’s bear.
Guys... It took a whole generation of time to find a bear that is dumber than a box of rocks eating bamboo..
Again, whats the most annoying question to Interventionists? "If "Bigfoot" exists, then why don't they have bones and fossils!? Why haven't some hunters gone out and killed any?
#1. Did some of you know that there is not ONE FOSSILIZED BONE OF A CHIMPANZEE? It is almost impossible to manifest a fossil in such a dense active area of land with such high diversity and heat.
#2 OK! lets go find a Bigfoot! Lets start by foot-surveying 40% of the "uninhabited land" we do not populate, then lets finally conduct a thorough search through the vast expanse of the lower montane areas to try to find a nocturnal freak of nature, that is no doubt bigger, faster, stronger, and believe me... Smarter (in their element) than we are...
Again, We couldn't find a godforsaken bear eating bamboo for nearly 100 years, before we finally found one, they were considered mythological creatures.
With case in point, I will continue this thread tomorrow. I will first revise and proofread what I have already posted, then I will move on to the next phase. Thats if your interested of course.
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