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Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
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[quote:Sungaze_At_Dawn:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDg3OTQ5XzM0NjRDQzE2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6409369:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDczNDM1Xzc3Nzk4NTJG] [quote:Anonymous Coward 2966199:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDczMzIxXzZDNDA2NkYy] Great thread and great writing OP! I love your SPIRIT, OP. You obviously have ears to hear, but no one offers you answers to your questions. Cryptic denials and snobbish remarks are all I see coming from those defending Masons. To answer your original question, I would be weary of this church and maybe even speak to the pastor/elders about your feelings. Are the messages/sermons you receive based on the word? Be careful that you aren't being led astray. Pray constantly about this issue, and if you don't feel this church is based on Christ's love and God's grace, get out. I may live in Los Angeles, but the church I go to is filled with God fearing Christians who read the Bible and pray constantly. Tell me, if you are surrounded by people who are Masons (slick-tongued and sweet-natured as they may seem), which of us is safer? I place my faith in God, and try not to be afraid of what is to come. Just some friendly advice. [/quote] Advice well taken. My family actually worships on the True Sabbath and we only go to this little church for the fellowship. They are between pastors at the moment and the guy that is filling in is truly Spirit-filled! He is rocking their boat and I LOVE IT! However, I really get the impression that these people are just simple minded and have no idea what the history of their organization is really about. They are just members because their fathers, uncles and grandfathers were all members and that is what you do around here. I was just shocked to hear today that the majority of them are 33rd degree. I have a real problem believing they could attain such a high status on the pyramid and NOT know this organization is so heavily rooted in darkness (thus the secrecy) all the while they tell you it is a Christian charitable organization! It boggles the mind! [/quote] Personally if I was going to Church still and had to choose between Sun day or Saturn day, I'd choose :sun: Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. I don't follow twist on light and words for lucifer and christ. I believe this is a trap. But there are white hats and some have very pure ideas and faith, just not on the highest levels, they're quite corrupt up there, and following HH and negatives, at least those in the know. But there are many white hats, and it has to do with the intent of someone's heart. There are many christian followers, who try to clean up their lives and walk the walk in the mystery schools too. And they are seeking knowledge but sometimes God shines in weakness not all that learning and sometimes its the simple things that are the hardest to do, with all this programming and human nature, that we need to do. Christ Yeshua did say, to not put a bowl on our lampshades, but put them a stand, in other words, not put a veil on the truth. Many Church's are fronts for satanists by the way, though again, not calling those Masons that, it depends on your town, what's going on, and possibly M'Kultra/Cia connections. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqYv6VNMjI[/youtube] Darren Hayes - Neverland Long ago When saturn tried to find a way past the sun Deep inside A little boy is turning pain into fun The pencils, the crayons, the paint colors run The plans Are forming slowly made with scissors and glue Eyes so wide He's telling mommy all the things he can do He'll sketch a contraption to save them for sure He can draw an alien He can come and take them home He can draw a cartoon He can draw a safety hatch He can draw a hot bath He can plug a toaster in And wait till daddy's nice and warm Toss it in And then when he's gone There's a neverland of fun [/quote]
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I live in a rural county in the Appalachian mountains. I attend a small country church. In our community is a large "lodge" following and I have noticed alot of square and compass
on license plates and window decals. Even in our church parking lot, I have seen a couple of masonic license plates.
A few Sundays ago, I noticed a man wearing a masonic "G" ring. His wife and I are in the choir together and this man is a church leader. I asked her today at church what rank her husband is in the masons and she said "33rd degree". Then she went on to tell me of several other leaders in this little church that are also 33rd degrees masons and their wives (who teach Sunday school and lead the music at the church) are members of the local "Eastern Star" Charter of the masons.
Now, I am no ordinary country hillbilly. I have a law degree and my family moved here 5 years ago from a city in the South as our "bugout" (you might say). We have adapted to our community in a way that we would be perceived as "locals" when the shtf and not as a "resource" (if you get my meaning). So right away we plugged in to a local church and got involved in our community.
I have spent the last 2-3 years researching the history of the freemasons and have learned through my research that we are talking about some of the most sinster schemers in all of American history and dating back to the Knights Templar and beyond. I have alot of trouble believing anyone higher than a 13th degree mason can continue to operate under the assumption that the masons are a Christian organization. (It is the 13th degree that they are initiated into an allegiance with "Jabulon").
Until today, I was absolutely certain that there is NO WAY you achieve 33rd degree status as a Freemason and NOT know you have made your allegiance to Lucifer (even if up to that point you still believed Jesus Christ was the "Supreme Being" referred to). In fact, it is upon becoming a 33rd degree mason that you are given a copy of the book "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike (some have access to this book sooner if mason involvement is a family tradition). Anyone who has cracked the binder on that book knows for certain that Lucifer is the object of their affection so no one will convinced me that they DON'T know.
However, I was "thrown for a loop" to find out so many at our local country church were such high level masons (and we have a small church). Either they KNOW and are infiltrating the church or they are too simple minded (or brainwashed) to grasp the sinister nature of their organization. I cannot imagine that these people realize what they are involved in or they themselves would be as shocked as myself!
So I ask anyone here, do you think it is possible that they DON'T know? Could a local rural chapter such as this be brainwashed into believing that their organization is Christian even up to the highest level of membership? Could some Freemason Lodge Chapters be completely and utterly sinister, evil and into pagan idolatry while your smaller, country chapters view it as a branch of their local churches and nothing more than a "Christian charitable organization"?
I am truly stumped at the moment!
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