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[quote:Menow 636186:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2NDA5NjM3X0RDQjY4OEIw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 26853356:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2NDA5MTc3X0JEOTU1QjMx] [quote:Menow 636186:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2NDA4OTM1XzgxNThDOUM0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 34814542:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2NDA2OTA5XzQzMUNBMTFG] [quote:Circuit Breaker:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2NDA2MDQ1XzIxMTcxM0JG] [quote:Anonymous Astrophysicist 1110832:MV8xNzY4NjI5XzM2MzkxNzk2Xzg1M0Q0MEJE] What you presented is not evidence, it is simply a half baked production by an incompetent troll. [/quote] Then prove that. Present something showing how the calculations don't work. Thus far, you've done everything you can to avoid doing so. [/quote] Well considering he admitted to not even looking at the videos presented, I am not sure how he came to that conclusion. It is another case of 'my way or the highway'. How people like the OP manage to get others to believe their nonesense is beyond me. [/quote] I know exactly how they get people to believe it. My understanding comes from having watched Nancy Lieder's tricks over the years. All they have to do is appeal to people's belief in conspiracy. Then you portray all opposition to the supposed "truths" as being just part of a grand conspiracy. It works best if you spout something truly outrageous about a subject where the public is not well-informed. Then, when lots of people who are educated about things like astronomy say that it's stupidly wrong, you portray that response as a "shrill (or shill) attack" and build on that, never admitting to being wrong about anything, ever, unless it is to pretend that you are honest about "mistakes". Then you repeat and build on that over and over and over and over again. Whether intentional or not, this is how they do it. [/quote] Yes I have seen that happen, I've been called a shill many times. I just can't understand the nature of some people, to want to believe in something so desperately, that they become the highest order of gullible. [/quote] Yes, and then they imply that simply because "so many" people are saying that something is wrong, that it must be right, simply because of the opposition to it. You can see it on this very thread, where AA says that if he was just a nut-job, no one would bother to say he is wrong. Fact is, he *IS* just a deluded nut-job, but a lot of people who can't understand the science involved or parse logical arguments think there is some sort of stalemate. [/quote]
Look at this photograph, it's the lasco c2 image. notice the particles:
link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov
For the first time in 11 years, this NOAA space weather website is not responding:
link to www.n3kl.org
According to what we a re seeing on the lasco c2 image, this data is falsified:
link to www2.nict.go.jp
The pressure should be much higher!
Normally, the position of the sun would be apparent on this graphic , usually with a low flux reading during a quiet period:
link to www.swpc.noaa.gov
Again, I am absolutely positive that solar data and space weather data is being withheld and falsified, and looking at the lasso c2 image it is quite apparent there is an unusual event occurring and an intense outburst of radiation, a very severe x ray flare from a sunspot that is rotating into position to become noneffective within 5-7 days.
This turn of events does not bode well and I am absolutely certain after observing theses data spreads fro 12 years that the information is being falsified.
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