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Subject Timothy Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury) alone determines what Shotguns & shells are considered “destructive devices” and can be banned
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Original Message If you have not read this thread make sure you read this post I linked, it explains how they can ban any imported gun also without legislation. Eric holder is responsible for all imported weapons and with the stroke of a pen can ban anything imported.



Thread: Timothy Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury) alone determines what Shotguns & shells are considered “destructive devices” and can be banned (Page 2)


All goverment links, no BS.


Thee Secretary of the Treasury is solely responsible for determining what shotguns are legal.

The Secretary of course is Timothy Geithner


The national fire arms act of 1934 was created to impose a severe tax to discourage the purchasing and transfer of firearms from one person to another. They later removed the term firearm and replaced it with the term destructive device.

The tax has been unchanged in the 78 years since it was enacted and is still $200 dollars if you wish to purchases a destructive device, this “transfer fee” is collected & your destructive device is registered to you.

The sectary of the treasury responsibility is to determine what is considered a weapon and what is considered a “sporting purpose” shotgun. No law has to be passed to change what shotguns are legal and what shotguns are considered “destructive devices” unrelated to sporting, it is at the whim of the sectary.


Here it is Title 26 > subtitle E > chapter 53 > subchapter B > Part 1 > section 5845 of the tax code.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

(2) Any weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter (.50 inches or 12.7mm), except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes

A few more links for those that would like to read more on the subject.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

Here is the Tax code it self.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Here is the ATF link on it explaining it all in detail.

[link to www.atf.gov]

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So at any point at the whim of Mr. Geithner he can ban whatever shotguns he wants by putting them in to the same category as Explosives, poison gas, grenades rockets and mines.

There it is in black and white, the IRS code gives the power to the Secretary of the Treasury alone determine what shotguns you are allowed to own and they have the power to change it without any legislation.



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