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Subject ROYAL SECRET of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY (32nd Degree)

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A couple posts have mentioned the worship of Lucifer -- "the bearer of Light" (knowledge). One post straightforwardly said it, and one alluded to it via "AGNI...USHAS...MITRA".

One must ask: Why would a "bearer of Light" be considered evil? That begs the question: Who determined said "bearer of Light" to be evil? It seems the Church did. Are there patterns for this behavior exhibited by the Church? Labeling something "evil" when there's no evidence for it? I recall the Church labeling astrology "of the devil"; having book burnings; and imprisoning Galileo when, through his telescope, he proved that the SUN is the center of our Milky Way galaxy, not earth. Church history is rife with examples of labeling people, areas of study, books, etc. "evil", when it thought it would lose its monopoly on knowledge (power). The biggest loser from Gutenburg inventing the printing press was the Church. They no longer held a monopoly on literacy, hence knowledge, hence power.

If we consider the Garden of Eden story, who sought to enlighten mankind? And who sought to control mankind? The serpent gave mankind the key to attaining the power to "know" as the gods (enlightenment) -- eating the apple from the tree of knowledge. What is evil about wanting to be enlightened? On the other side of the coin, we have Yahweh keeping man (and woman) blissfully ignorant: You may have eternal life, just don't eat from the tree of knowledge. In other words, remain blissfully ignorant, frolicking in the land given to us forever, but knowing nothing. Is this what someone with our (humankind's) best interest would say? It makes me think that if we read the Garden of Eden story without the religious connotations, indeed not having been exposed to a "religion" at all, the serpent would be humankind's benefactor, and Yahweh would appear to be our oppressor.
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Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but to eat of that fruit?

Perhaps He knew the Serpent Brotherhood was up to no good, taking us from Paradise and making a system where children can be bought as sex slaves for money?

Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an "opressor".

Even though we walked NAKED FREE TO DISCOVER lots of things about/on Paradise.

Explain that kind of oppressor to me...
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To your point about "Why oppressor if He let you do all that you wanted but eat of that fruit?", a defender of "Lucifer" and/or the idea of "a Light bearer" of logic, reason, and enlightenment might argue that that's a BIG "BUT" (no pun intended). If eating the fruit from the "Tree of Knowledge" meant the ability to know as the gods, that's a damn big BUT. To illustrate the point, I picture a modern day religious person walking around with a goofy, naive smile on his/her face, preaching their particular "gospel", but being absolutely (yet blissfully, apparently, because of their smile) ignorant. Personally, I would rather be enlightened and live a finite life, than live forever in ignorance. What kind of life would that be?

To your point about "Of course the Serpent Brotherhood will tell that One who gave us Paradise was an 'oppressor'"...Well, the same could be said about Yahweh/God and those who follow that religion. In fact, that's the world in which we've lived in western civilization for the past 2,000 years -- a world where the entity who attempted to squash enlightenment is the "good" figure. Says who? The Church, of course.
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Oh Deary me !! What a waste of a life it must be for you , all that insecurity and innate ignorance you display in this post Hiram.

I am a man , and a part of every Humans life is the voyage of discovery ...... i don't need your smelly snake (or motifs / other people) to guide my my enquiries as to the nature of myself (and my surroundings)

Wake up Boy's and Girls !! Both sides of the debate/argument are based on things you've been told(&/or led to by others whether they were present or not).

The big question is ..... "what" are you ??? ( not , "who" are you ??) (most people , at this point , will do a "personal inventory" and get totally tied down with B.S.)

Here's some provocation for you all .......i am just a feeling , and that is enough.

Thoughts exist in their own right (a "stream" of consciousness as it were)

Our surroundings ( and how we feel about them ) limits or expands our access to these "thoughts".

In the same way, a group or congregation engender certain "feelings" which give access to thoughts and ideas that do not occur "normally"(??) ..... this has been termed , i believe , as "raising the lodge"  .

[b]The secret is[/b] , of course , that all these things are available to all humankind , one needs only to elicit the "feeling" that equates with "raising the lodge"(as just one example).Negative / bad feelings lead to negative / bad thoughts .... pretty simple really !! :)

In other words , most ( not all) masons & "religiontards" still feel inadequate/incomplete and , therefore , require others to raise them up.

Best wishes for your journey !!
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Original Message Would anyone like to speculate, guess, or reveal what the ROYAL SECRET of the 32nd Degree of Scottish Rite FREEMASONRY is?

Keep in mind that "secrets" in Freemasonry (other than passwords, hand shakes, gestures, etc.) are not given. Everything is cloaked in allegory, metaphor, and symbolism. Thus, 99.9% of 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons don't know the ROYAL SECRET (despite what they might or might not have been led to believe). The "juicy" bits of Freemasonry are not revealed openly even to the Craft's initiates, but rather through a combination of a symbolically veiled allegory AND reflection and study by the individual Mason.

In other words, a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason is no more "in the know" than any cowan (non-Mason). The entire 32nd Degree Scottish Rite ritual can be found online, in books, etc. So once a cowan has read that ritual, he/she has just as much from which to draw as any 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason.

Happy speculating. I look forward to a plethora of interesting posts from GLPers. :)

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