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Question for Christians: If you don't have an eternal soul until you accept Jesus as your only Lord & Savior, what goes to hell forever?
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According to Vedic philosophy, we ARE the Soul. The Soul is the individual unit of consciousness that gives a material body life. We have 3 qualities, although only in minute quantities. Those qualities are Eternity (Eternal life), Knowledge, and Bliss. A minute amount of Eternity is still eternity.
But according to Christian Theology, you don't have an eternal soul until you accept Jesus as your ONLY lord and savior.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
The words "but have" imply eternal life is not something we are born with, but something received as a result of believing in Christ. "But have everlasting life," is undeniably future tense. Eternal life is something those who believe in Jesus Christ shall have in the future.
According to John 3:16, the Bible actually teaches that only those believing in Jesus will have eternal life. It is not something all men are born with. Likewise, John 3:16 actually teaches that those who do not believe in Jesus will perish, not suffer for eternity in hell.
Everyone with an elementary school education should recognize that these are contradictory concepts. Why is it necessary for God to offer you eternal life if the real you will never die? God would not have sacrificed His Son if you already had eternal life. Therefore, according to the Bible God knows man is mortal and does not possess eternal life. Who are you going to believe? Man, who claims you are immortal, or the inspired word of God which states otherwise?
What happens to those humans who do not believe in the Son of God? Implied in this phrase, "whosoever believeth in him, should not perish," is that those who do not believe in Him will perish. Most theologians do not believe this. There are only two possibilities, either you perish or you do not perish. If mankind is born with eternal life this phrase has no meaning, as they cannot perish. So this phrase indicates one is not born with any aspect of life which lives forever. No one will live in eternal agony in hellfire according to this verse. They will perish. When the words "eternal life" or "everlasting life" are used in the Bible, they are used in phrases such as: inherit eternal life, the gift of eternal life, or the promise of everlasting life. It is never mentioned as something one is born with, but something that Christians shall inherit in the future.
So if you don't have a Soul, and you didn't accept Jesus then you aren't eternal. What goes to hell forever? What exactly is eternal about you that can go to hell and stay there?
Also: What is your definition of Mercy? Is ONE chance to get it right, regardless of time, place, and circumstance your definition of an Unlimited Merciful God?
According to Vedic philosophy, God gives us unlimited life times to come to him, because he is our father and he does not want to see us fail. He wants us to join him in his Eternal Kingdom outside of all the material universes. Because he is our father and so merciful, the law of Transmigration of the Soul gives us unlimited chances over the course of eternity to find his instructions and follow them.
This is not a bashing thread. I am simply curious if your philosophers have solved this enigma.
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