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[quote:Stanfiem:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg5ODM1XzU0NTM3RkNE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21755869:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4NzM1X0U3QjM1Rjk1] [quote:Stanfiem:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4NjQxX0FFNUQ2NzdD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21755869:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4Mzg3X0VENDA0RkFF] [quote:Stanfiem:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4Mjk1XzFCOTc3NUY0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 13864401:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4MjI0XzhGNjQ5Q0E5] [quote:Stanfiem:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4MTczXzZFMzE0MzE2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 13864401:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg4MDIzXzEyODRERDY0] [quote:Stanfiem:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg3OTk5XzQ2MTdDNjY4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21755869:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg3OTY2XzUxMzBDNzM2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 11849087:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg3ODk0XzM5NjREMEUy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21755869:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg3ODcxX0Q3OEQwOUUz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 11849087:MV8xOTU1NjIyXzMyNzg3ODE3XzY4QjQwQjUw] i dont trust that mother mary bitch.. our father is fine to pray glory be to thy father ok to pray but rosery is pure bs.. [/quote] So are you saying Jesus is a son of a bitch? Don't be this ignorant! [/quote] yes all women are fail.. i will never pray to a bitch!! [/quote] She was not a normal woman. Show me a woman who can stand at the foot of the cross where her son is being crucified, and still have faith. [/quote] Come on dude. How do you not see this as idol worship. She is flesh plain and simple. With out god gifting her with that faith she would have been sulking like the rest of the disciples. [/quote] cmon can't you see that is insulting talking about the woman who bore our savior that way? [/quote] Lets put it this way If I was female and had a child that was from God, and then I later found out the instead of praying to God THROUGH JESUS people were praying to god THROUGH ME I would be VERY UPSET. It is not an insult to christ...It is realizing that the flesh and blood that someone walks around in is just that flesh and blood. I worship GOD through the spirit that was inside her and inside of me plain and simple. It is ONLY through the holy spirit that she was able to be part of the birth of Jesus. That spirit that you pray to is also inside of you...so stop praying to her and pray to the father through Jesus. [/quote] So you've never asked anyone to pray for you? [/quote] No I have never asked a dead person (not saying she is spiritually dead just her flesh no longer exists) to pray for me and talk to Jesus for me because I can do it myself. That is the point; you do not need mary to intercede for you. [/quote] What if God intended to have an intercessor between Him and us? It can lead to arrogance to have a direct line of contact with God. [/quote] Only if you view that direct line as something of your own doing. I know that the spirit inside of me tells me what to pray when to pray and how to pray. Therefore it no longer becomes me that is doing the praying but the spirit inside of me. Therefore all boasting is moot when you realize that it was never you in the first place. I KNOW that with out his spirit I am useless. [/quote] According to some apparitions of Jesus (google immaculee ilibagiza) Jesus listens to all the prayers, from catholics and also from every person of good-will, because Mary takes them to Him. So we believe that you have her interceding on your behalf anyway, even if you despise her. [/quote] WHAT?? Where in the bible does it talk about Apparitions of Jesus, or the fact that another person is necessary in the line between Us and God? If you think Christ is coming down to earth as an apparition it might explain your love for mary. How do you not see this as blasphemy. Because Jesus died an innocent man we no longer need things like mary to talk to God we have Jesus. He is the one that intercedes for us not mary. Why do you think even Jesus prayed to the father, because he was the intercessor not us. I getting a great view of how the trinity works by talking about these things. God hears everyone he hears all thoughts from everyone. It is only through Jesus that we can experience communion with him and place his thoughts and desires on our minds and hearts. but to say that I despise her because I do not pray TO her is a bit of a stretch. I love Jesus and his spirit inside of every person on this earth. I just know that there is nothing special about the flesh of mary, she was chosen by God to carry Jesus so that his plans could be fulfilled. [/quote]
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