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If Vaccines don't cause Autism why is it a side effect listed on the package insert with the FDA!
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 6886051:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgzNTMyXzZDOEJBMkEx] [quote:Cahill:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgyMjIyX0M4NjNFMjAw] [quote:Catseye:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgxNzg5X0IxMjBCRTA3] [quote:Cahill:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgwOTI4XzhFRUEyQzc0] [quote:Catseye:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgwNzIyXzY0QTFFODYw] [quote:Catseye:MV8xOTc5NDA5XzMzMjgwNzEzXzM4OEI4QjM1] Over the past several years, I have looked through dozens of message boards devoted to health because of my own interests. I paid particular attention to those involving mercury and autism. I have come across countless posts by mothers who reported their child was never the same after vaccines. The ignorant can quote all the FDA and government crap they want but it's obvious to anyone who does their homework that there's a correlation. The protocols that are working best for autism are those that involve gut health and chelation because they already know it's the mercury in the vaccines that is the root cause of the problem. How are they ever going to do a study to prove it when the people who fund studies are the ones who will get sued? The vaccine and amalgam industries can't afford the lawsuits Everyone I know has been vaccinated and has mercury fillings in their mouths. The powers that be know it's bad but they can't admit it. It's like Monsanto not serving GM food in their own cafeteria. [/quote] Oh, BTW, I don't ever remember a mom reporting an extra arm growing after vaccines were administered. [/quote] Has everyone you know got autism? Or even a majority. They've all had vaccines and mercury fillings so by your logic they should have. I mean, that's the double whammy isn't it? I'm hoping your last sentence was an attempt at sarcasm. [/quote] The point was that mercury is so pervasive in our country that everyone would have an opportunity to sue if some study showed it caused all these horrific things - because we weren't adequately warned when we were given the vaccines or the fillings in our teeth. No, everyone I know does not have autism. The reason everyone doesn't get poisoned from mercury is because the elemental mercury in fillings and vaccines is normally detoxified by the body. But in some people, the elemental form of mercury is converted into the much more dangerous methyl mercury form and it is this that is causing some people to have problems. Some people may also have a problem excreting mercury properly and promptly. Not everyone gets sick because not everyone has a problem with yeast and bacteria, like a case of dysbiosis, or with their own body's detoxification ability by their liver and kidneys. These are the risk factors that will determine if someone is going to get sick or not, baby or adult. Most people don't understand mercury challenge tests because the chemistry is over their heads. That includes most doctors because they aren't familiar with the test. They think if they test the blood or urine for mercury, that some will be there if there's a problem. One reason mercury is so dangerous is that it binds with body tissues and interferes with enzyme systems by binding chemically. That means it "sticks" inside the body. So it won't be floating around in the blood. A challenge test uses a chelator that binds strongly to mercury to grab it away from body tissues so it ends up in the blood to be removed. Then you measure the mercury as it comes out in the urine. The Quackwatch idiot describes this as "articially raising" the levels of mercury in these tests to rip people off. That's how ignorant he is about basic chemistry. Any scientist who knows anything about mercury can tell you it binds and gets stuck inside the body because of its chemical nature. from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3395437/?tool=pmcentrez "Reinforcing the hypothesis that the majority of injuries caused by methylmercury (MeHg) in the central nervous system are related to its ability to increase reactive oxygen species, Zhang et al. (2009) [20] reported that after pretreatment of bovine cells with pyrroloquinoline quinone (PQQ), an antioxidant, the cytotoxicity induced by MeHg is significantly attenuated. PQQ reduces the percentage of apoptotic cells, decreased significantly ROS production, suppressed lipid peroxidation, and increased antioxidant enzyme activity in cells exposed to MeHg. Furthermore, the protective effects elicited by an antioxidant (ebselen) strengthen the idea that seleno-organic compounds represent promising approaches to neutralize MeHg-induced neurotoxicity [19]. Studies also demonstrate that mercury has the ability to reduce the number of neuron and cytoarchitecture in individuals with prenatal exposure to mercury [76, 77]. In animal models, some of these symptoms are reproduced. Low-dose prenatal exposure to methylmercury during 10 gestational days impairs motor and mnemonic function in adult mice [23]. This hypothesis is supported by studies that describe methylmercury inhibition of cell division and migration both “in vivo” and “in vitro” [76–78]. In addition, because of its high affinity for sulfhydryl groups in tubulin, methylmercury inhibits the organization of microtubules that are important in CNS development [79–81]. The binding to SH groups also interferes with the intracellular signaling of multiple receptors (e.g., muscarinic, nicotinic, and dopaminergic) and promotes the blockade of Ca++ channels in neurons [82, 83]. In addition, inorganic mercury has the ability to increase the permeability of chloride channels of GABA A receptors in the dorsal root ganglion, which is associated with neuronal hyperpolarization [84]. Corroborating these findings, the study conducted by Maia et al., (2010) [21] demonstrates that the poisoning by methylmercury changes the nitrergic activities of adult mice, and the predominance of alterations may be related to different locations. Besides increasing the nitrergic activity methylmercury and mercuric chloride also have the ability to increase the release of neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. Similar findings have also been reported to be a mechanism implicated in the effects of methylmercury and HgCl2 on the central nervous system function [85–89]. Halbach et al. [90] studied a correlation in Iraqi children between the level of maternal exposure to methylmercury during pregnancy and psychomotor retardation. Sandborgh-Englund et al. [91] corroborated this finding in children from the Faroe Islands; they found that children exposed to mercury in the prenatal period had defects in attention, memory, language, and motor function. In addition, exposure to methylmercury in pregnant women or early childhood leads to changes in the CNS development of the fetus or child, respectively [50, 92, 93]. Thereupon, changes caused by mercury poisoning result in significant clinical deficit in motor skills, coordination, and general activity rate of cognitive and psychological disorders [23]." More relevant info on mercury: http://www.chemistryexplained.com/Ge-Hy/Heavy-Metal-Toxins.html http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15250541 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC182692/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC373215/?page=1 http://www.toxicteeth.org/natCamp_ADAresponds_haleyrebuttal.aspx http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4115912987954370615 Sarcasm? You're the one that mentioned growing an extra arm. I'm hoping YOU were being sarcastic. Where do you get your info from? Is it all from Quackwatch and the FDA? [/quote] I fully agree about the dangers of mercury poisoning. It's truly nasty stuff, particularly mercury vapour which is one of the reasons you can't get a mercury filled thermometer these days. Methyl mercury poisoned fish is certainly a no-no for expectant mothers and the such like. I doubt if I'd eat them either. However, your second paragraph starts off with a very familiar patronising stance. "The chemistry is over their heads" and certainly in my eyes that's where your argument starts to disintegrate. If mercury combines chemically with enzymes please explain then how it "sticks" inside the body. If it's not floating around in the body are these enzymes it has combined with stuck somewhere too? Does the mercury seek out these enzymes or vice versa? I'm guessing your chemistry (it's biochemistry by the way) has been gleaned from the world renowned Dr Mercola or his ilk which would speak volumes. I'm also guessing that you would promote mercury chelation techniques for autistic children too? Just a point of interest where did you copy and paste your post from as it plain that it's a regurgitant. And for your information my knowledge comes from my experience in working in medicine for over a quarter of a century. That's REAL medicine by the way, not Internet "medicine". [/quote] Other than the cut and paste from pubmed which I clearly labeled, I wrote the rest. No, I didn't get it from Mercola's website. Why would you assume that? I actually prefer scientific sites who are unbiased where I can check things for myself. I guess you think I already knew you were working in medicine and that comment about it being "over their heads" was an insult. No, I didn't know you had anything to do with medicine and I said that based on the discussions I have had with doctors about it over the years. Doctors have a nasty habit of not being able to admit when they don't know something. They'd rather make the patient think he is the one that is ignorant. And why would the expression "over their heads" have anything to do with the facts in my argument? Your "real medicine", BTW, is drugs, tests and surgery - it can't even be called real health care. Medical doctors are pros at saving lives in crisis situations. They are the best at that and I don't fault them at all for those skills. But they are ignorant when it comes to chronic diseases. They ignore the root causes of chronic diseases by trying to treat only the symptoms. That is why alternative medicine came about. Because it addresses the root causes of chronic diseases. Root causes are things like dysbiosis, food intolerance and chronic heavy metal poisoning, sometimes genetics. It's not their fault that they're ignorant, they simply aren't taught those things in medical school. They have their way of doing things that are the most profitable, not the most safe and effective. Your being involved in the medical profession does explain your stance and your unwillingness to do any research that goes against it. I wish you could look outside the box just a bit. Regurgitant? That's an odd choice of words. And biochemistry instead of chemistry? Then maybe that's why you can't look it up yourself. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. I know enough about mercury that I don't have to go cutting and pasting other people's words about it. The medical profession doesn't have any monopoly on knowledge even though they act like they do. Not now. With the internet, you can look up anything. Determining what is correct and important is what is difficult. As for mercury getting stuck in the body, it has a high affinity for sulfhydrl groups and gets stuck in cells. It doesn't "seek out" enzymes that it disrupts, it just comes in contact with them randomly. That's why no two people have the same symptoms. If it did seek out a particular enzyme system or a particular group of cells, the symptoms people have would be more similar and it would be much easier to diagnose. binding of mercury to red blood cells: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2195179/ binds to sulfur in the brain: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22826746 was bound mainly to mitochondrial proteins: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/144124 neurochemical receptor-binding characteristics: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16117121 from: THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE TOXIC EFFECTS OF MERCURY TO EXACERABATION OF THE MEDICAL CONDITION CLASSIFIED AS ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE BY Boyd E. Haley, Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506-0055 e-mail, behaley@uky.edu "FORWARD: Thimerosal or merthiolate is a derivative of thiolsalicylate where ethylmercury is attached though the sulfur. It is defined as a preservative or anti-microbial in medical use. This anti-microbial action is dependent on thimerosal breaking down releasing ethyl-mercury that can penetrate cell membranes and bind to intracellular enzymes, inhibiting them, and causing cell death. Further, in certain biological environments the ethyl-mercury can further break down releasing mercury cation (Hg2+). Hg2+ is also very reactive with enzymes and proteins inhibiting their biological functions and causing cell injury or death. Both ethyl-mercury and Hg2+ are very neuro-toxic compounds. However, ethyl-mercury is more rapidly partitioned into the hydrophobic (fatty) tissues of the central nervous system and is a more potent neuro-toxin than Hg2+ based on this “partitioning factor”. It is this partitioning factor that makes organic-mercurials such as dimethyl-mercury so neuro-toxically lethal (this is the compound that caused the death of a Dartmouth University chemistry professor after she was exposed to a drop or two on her gloved hand). The concern with organic-mercurials, such as thimerosal, is that such compounds can be perceived as “pro-toxicants” just as certain pharmaceuticals can be classified as “pro-drugs”. This means that the original compound, e.g. thimerosal, is less reactive giving the compound time to partition into certain areas of the body before it breaks down releasing the ethyl-mercury and then further releasing Hg2+. However, while attaching ethyl-mercury to thiolsalicylate makes the ethyl-mercury less reactive it most likely allows increased partitioning into the central nervous system before the ethylmercury is released and thereby, increases the neuro-toxicity per unit ethyl-mercury involved." "It is critical to understand that both tubulin and CK in normal brain are found primarily in the soluble fraction of a homogenate. Yet, both proteins appear of normal size and unmodified on reducing polyacrylamide gel electrophoretic analysis (PAGE). This indicates that both intact tubulin and CK have formed crosslinks with other proteins that are insoluble under physiological conditions. Yet, these crosslinks are readily disrupted by the common dithiolthreitol (DTT) reduction procedure used before PAGE. What tubulin and CK have in common is that both have a very reactive sulfhydryl in their nucleotide binding sites that, if modified, inhibits their biological activity (14, 15). Mercury has a very high affinity for sulfhydryls and has been proven to be a potent inhibitor of the biological activity of both of these proteins. Also, mercury is divalent and can form crosslinks between soluble proteins like tubulin and CK and is known to cause protein aggregation. A generalized single step reaction would be as given in reaction 1." "Mercury typifies a “retention” toxicity and much of the mercury taken into the body is absorbed by the solid tissues. The amount in urine represents mercury being excreted. However, the main question is how much is being retained in the different body tissues." "It is important to remember the “Periodic Chart of the Elements” which places Zn, Cd and Hg in the same IIB category and all have high affinity for thiol groups. In other words, mercury is much more toxic in the presence of other metals that compete with mercury for the binding sites on protective biomolecules (e.g., APO-E2 & E3, glutathione or GSH, metallo-thionine, etc.). It is also important to note that the “test tube levels” of mercury are not representative of what would happen in a dynamic system where a constant level of mercury is being supplied by the amalgams. Since mercury toxicity is a “retention toxicity” all mercury pulled from the system, or retained by the tissue, is replaced by more mercury being constantly released from the amalgams and the HgZf level and toxicity in solution remains constant." And from another pubmed article,Traces of mercury in organs from primates with amalgam fillings. : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2115006 Role of mercury toxicity in hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and stroke http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21806773 [/quote]
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UK to give pertussis vaccine to newborns? Autism and SIDS are on the package insert
Here is a clear measure of medical insanity and the threat it represents to the health and life of your children: UK authorities are considering giving the pertussis vaccine to newborns, even though there are no safety studies to support vaccination of newborns.
Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and autism are listed on the pertussis vaccine package insert (filed with the FDA) under serious adverse events reported during post-approval use. ‘Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.’
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I really could not believe this one so I had to check for myself and low and behold its true!
It's on Page 11...
"Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura,
SIDS
, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis,
autism
, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.2"
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