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If Jesus was God, who resurrected him?
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[quote:DGN:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTYxMDQ0X0Y4RDEzREJF] [quote:Salt:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE4MzIzX0ZEODEyMjU4] [quote:DGN:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE3NzM3X0JDOUQ2RjhB] [quote:Salt:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE3MTI1XzRGMDU0MzU1] [quote:DGN:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE2NTQ5X0FGNUM2NzQx] [quote:Salt:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE2MDc0X0ZDMEI4QUQ0] [quote:DGN:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0NTE1NjQ2XzJGMTA2QjY3] [quote:SevenThunders:MV8yMDM3MjQ1XzM0Mzc5MDk0XzYzRjJBMUIx] You don't understand time. It doesn't exist. God is not only omni-present he is omni-temporal. He is every when. Taking this further God is infinite, the earth is finite and exists within God and the universe can not contain God. So, Jesus as the messiah is like an avatar. Hebrews describes it as 'the exact representation of his being', yet he became 'lower than the angels'. So God generated a finite projection of his infinite nature into a frail human vessel, Jesus Christ. That is why when Jesus was on earth, the father was greater. So now ask yourself the question, where was the father while Jesus was dead? Where was he? Everywhere and everywhen and outside of time and space. All those events happen simultaneously from Gods view. Now it's a simple matter for God to have arranged, from the very beginning of creation, for Jesus to be resurrected on the third day. God was where he always was during Jesus' death. There is no contradiction, as much as the OP would like to find one. [/quote] I'm not sure what contradiction you mean but God would not "have arranged, "from the very beginning of creation, for Jesus to be resurrected on the third day" because there was no need for a savior at the beginning of creation. [/quote] wrong wrong wrong. Jesus was with God from the very beginning. God KNOWS the end from the beginning. [/quote] The 'beginning' means the beginning of Jehovah's creative works which was Jesus, that's how he came to be with God; "And to the angel of the congregation in Laodicea write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the[b][i] beginning of the creation by God[/i][/b]" Rv3:14 [/quote] i disagree. the beginning means the beginning. the translation is rough but it really means always, or since always. Jesus IS God. They are one in the same. They were never without each other or separated. Jesus is NOT a created entity. [/quote] Jehovah say's Jesus was; " So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, [b][i]a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father[/i][/b]; and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, yes, he actually cried out—this was the one who said [it]—saying: “The one coming behind me has advanced in front of me, because he existed before me.”) 16 For we all received from out of his fullness, even undeserved kindness upon undeserved kindness. 17 Because the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ. 18 No man has seen God at any time;[b][i] the only-begotten god[/i][/b] who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him." Jo1:14 Is God mistaken? :blink: [/quote] Jesus became flesh after the fact. But, that does not negate His Holy Presence since always. [/quote] Right; "God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. 3 He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. 4 [b][i]So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs[/i][/b]. Hb1:1 [/quote]
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".... until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose. 3 To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself alive after he had suffered, being seen by them
throughout forty days
and telling the things about the kingdom of God." Ac1:1
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