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off the grid is anyone serious
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 22911814:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDIxNDA0X0Y3RjMyOEJG] [quote:Laura Bow:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDIwMTg3XzE4NTQ1Njgz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 22911814:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE5OTYzX0I1MDFEQkY2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1292637:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE5NTI3X0RGMUEyMzhG] Make no mistake: what's being proposed here CAN and IS being done - I don't think anyone here is claiming that it would be easy, but I think everyone can agree it is certainly worthwhile. [/quote] I've lived off the grid in Mongolia. Here, it's normal and expected away from the cities. It's a lifestyle built by necessity. It's a simple life, but not so bad if you are willing to adjust your expectations. Low power consumption means smaller off-grid infrastructure requirements. And it means more work. But it also means closer relationships with friends and family. Moving off-grid is more easily accomplished if you have the help of friends or neighbors who are already off-grid. Off-grid communities are usually very close, and help one another often. It's part of the lifestyle. It's part of survival. Want an easier transition into off-grid living? Join an off-grid community, at least on a temporary basis as a learning experience, or become neighbors to a community of off-grid people you can befriend and trade with. It speeds the learning curve. [/quote] Since you do off-the-grid, want to share how you are set up and how you do it? Would be interesting to hear... [/quote] I travel around a bit, so I'm not always off-grid. But I've spent some time off-grid here & other places. I've used solar + batteries and gensets. A wind generator is on the wish-list. Living in a yurt (or a tent) with a solar panel, deep-cycle batteries and/or a genset is easy if you have access to some funds, the tech, fuel, and if keep your power consumption spartan. If you want all the amenities of home, then you must spend the big bucks required for the large infrastructure needed to supply all the juice needed. And it can easily and quickly get cost-prohibitive. Home made solar panels tend to be very fragile & go bad quickly, so I'll refrain from recommending them. I'm a nomad, so large-scale power infrastructure is not an option for me anyway. My advice- Spend all you can uncomfortably afford on power generation. Be creative with it (diversify), and then live within your power-generation means. It is self-limiting, so you just have to deal with it. After awhile, you get used to the forced conservation. Before too long, you begin to wonder why you ever thought you needed more. That is your moment of enlightenment. To manage your limited power, you'll need to share/ration your power usage, and not keep unneeded items turned on. Only plug in what you immediately use (same goes with water- only turn it on while it's immediately needed- never waste!) Even freezers don't need to be turned on all the time. Timers can help. Only 'long-term' store things that don't need electricity to maintain, obviously. Electricity tends to be for short-term usage only. The cool earth is your friend for food storage. Remember: 1. Adjust your expectations for your new reality. 2. Don't re-invent the wheel. Find people that have already done it & learn from them. Peace [/quote]
About doing it or do most of you just talk shit about it and never intend on making it a reality
im offerig to buy land and share it with a few people so that we can make this a reality
i would lime wooded and fertile at least 10 acres for farming and firewood
i will pay for the land in full and still have a few bucks to contribute but i can not do it alonee
i need a few people willing to live the slow and peaceful life
a few farm animals
we could grow crops and small game for market
have solar and wind and generally live quietly as life was meant to be
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