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[quote:Anonymous Coward 1028551:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDI3NDM3XzYwQkM3NTFB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21948869:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDIwNDEyX0JGMzdEQkFF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1292637:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE5MDg5X0M0ODYyNEU5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 21948869:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE5MDA2XzlDRTBCMzcw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 24520447:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE3NTMwX0I4QkFGMDVF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17687147:MV8yMDQ4Mjg5XzM0NDE3NDkzX0RBOUUyMzU5] having land is great but you still have to have an income until things are up and running.How much planning have you done?Are you gonna sharecrop or is this a buy in deal? [/quote] I intend ln makibg it self sufficient quickpy through sellig small game and poultry [/quote] Your kidding right...? Do you know how much game and poultry you would have to have to live as you put it. First off you can't just sell game. You need tags to hunt and you only get one. Its illegal to sell game. You can eat yourself what you kill but can't sell it. Poultry...Ha ha ha. Chickens and Turkeys are alot of work. You need feed for them that you buy at a store. 10 chickens over the course of a year eat alot. 200lbs of starter feed when you get your chicks. Then about 80 lbs a month. Do the math. Feed is about 10 bucks a bag give or take. Going up right now. Saying if you were to do this right now. 10 acres will cost you what... then solar to run it will be 20k. then outbuildings for livestock another 20k. drilling a well 10-20k. Fencing 5k. Tractor to till the ground and keep things up min 10k. should I keep going. Even a one room cabin by the time you get wood stoves and alike for it would run you 15k. If you don't have a farming background and know what your doing before you do it you will fall on your face hard. Not that easy. I bought a place 12 years ago and it has taken a long time to get everything in place to be self sufficient. [/quote] Kudos, really. You must know from experience then: You don't do it all at once, its a slowly built system over many many years to become truly self-sufficient. One might hold off on livestock until they had the means to feed them without the usage of much outside feeds in order to prevent what you described above. Same thing for the other items, you can't expect to do it all at once you'll freaking kill yourself and I doubt many are that rich. [/quote] To feed chickens and Turkeys even after your set up and have a couple of goats for cheese and milk you need to plant about 3-4 acres into grain and then maybe you would have some left over for yourselves. Yes you can forage and pick things like plaintains for them thru the winter but you would spend alot of time doing this also. You could add rabbits as the three go together nicely but still huge piles of work. Huge. Vegan works better. Grow huge gardens of root vegtables that store over the winter then start all over again the following spring. Hunt what you can for protein and fish and dry it all for over the winter. Better buy a ton of salt litterally. Do you seriously think you have that kind of time to get somthing going with the way things are going...? You need to start to really sit down and get some reading under your belt to understand how it would all work. I've seen many people with many a good intention move to the country for the lifstyle and leave within the first two years even when they bought a place that was partially set up already. Its not for the meek or people with bad backs. [/quote] This is good insight here - bumping for continued discussion of difficulties and solutions, OP you still around? [/quote]
About doing it or do most of you just talk shit about it and never intend on making it a reality
im offerig to buy land and share it with a few people so that we can make this a reality
i would lime wooded and fertile at least 10 acres for farming and firewood
i will pay for the land in full and still have a few bucks to contribute but i can not do it alonee
i need a few people willing to live the slow and peaceful life
a few farm animals
we could grow crops and small game for market
have solar and wind and generally live quietly as life was meant to be
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