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Carbon Tax money should be used to feed the poor of the world
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 23343731:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1ODI0X0E2OURBQ0JF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 23343731:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1NzczXzRFRDI4QTY1] [quote:Dr.DoomLittle:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1NjM1X0MyMUY4MDYz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 23343731:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1NTc2XzNEM0NBQTg0] [quote:Dr.DoomLittle:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1MzI0X0FBQzg0MzVG] [quote:Anonymous Coward 23343731:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY1MDc0X0Q1RjkwOTQz] [quote:Dr.DoomLittle:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY0OTMyX0VGOUIzNTk4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 23343731:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY0NzcwXzZGNjdCQ0JB] [quote:Evil_Twin:MV8yMDUwODkwXzM0NDY0NjgzXzcwMzQ5QkY4] You still haven't stated which resources you are willing to forgo. Do you just want to pay lip-service and send other peoples' money to appease your conscience, or are you actually going to do something real? [/quote] If you've around GLP and other sites for a while, you'll know that all "money" is simply a debt. Money as debt is productive effort of the future brought forward into the present. That is the major problem we have - the huge amount of debt can never be paid by future generations' productive efforts. This generation has stolen all its materialistic shit from the people of the future. This system is going to collapse and it will be replaced by a resource allocation system. [/quote] You are correct; however the UN, Like the US, is a pawn of the global banking initiative of a one world currency. Or why the effort to move authority to a global one? The whole carbon taxation system is a scam; who else would dream a tax on breathing? So you cannot advocated the Carbon taxation system that supports the same system. Its the system of elitist dictatorship that is the problem. Bankers create money, bribe and corrupt governments, then capture policy of said governments. Now they want to tax the world. Why not confiscate the wealth of the top .05% and distribute it down throughout the population and improve the lifestyles of millions of people? After all, it is "the elite" that soft kill our children, plot the muder of 2/3 the population, create debt slavery and misery in want, and fuck up the environment? [/quote] Some good points Dr. Yeah, I guess you could do some wealth re-distribution from the top 0.05% or whatever. But the real change is going to be systemic paradigm shift. The carbon tax is not a tax on breathing, it is a tax on the consumption habits of the humanoid carbon-based life form It will ultimately become one of the means of population control. Individuals will have an allocation of carbon credits, limitation of one child per family etc, more gay people etc. [/quote] Well, I am all for a paradigm shift. But it seems we're just getting the same boot on our necks; only a different flavor of grime to lick. This particular boot I would like to amputate. I WANT a legitimate representative authorty that operates in good faith to the vast population. I understand the humanoid carbon based units consumption grid; I call "Bullshit" Unless some points are addressed: 1. What will be the exceptions? Are ALL humans subject to the system, or are the super wealthy exempt? Will there be built in corruption? Wlll the queen have to pay? The president of Iran? North Korea? The president? Rockefeller? If not, then it will have to be VOLUNTARY; meaning we'll see the same deceptive trickery, coercion, traps, and corruption we got now. 2. Are governments going to be subject to it? What policing authoirty will regulate governments? What will be THEIR ordainment? Whats to stop militaristic governments from telling them to piss off? 3. Corporations? Will there be fine print exception that will delegitimize te sstem altogether? i.e. Is this the type of order I just described in the above post: I will quote myself: "The Order of the elite; Order that serves those who dont have to live by its laws, while the rest are expected to accept the much more arcane system of "Order"; the criminalization Order, all laws that are really ficticious systems of control. and thats the system now; and its why the insitutions are exploited by those not subject to the Order's laws. The system today is simply gangsters, pressing their will upon the population through force, coercion, and deceptive trickery and terminology. They call it "Order". Order is not ordained by god; Order is a created fiction by men. " So you propose a taxation order that wil likely be orchestrated by the same individuals that benefit from the same "Order" that we all suffer by? [/quote] There's going to come a great and terrible calamity on a global scale. Then, there is going to arise a great and glorious leader. Nearly everyone will capitulate to that leader and ask for an orderly system with which everyone will want to comply. Those who don't want to comply will be executed (because they will be seen as the cause of the great calamity that was visited on the earth). Some call this leader "anti-Christ", because he will do away with all of the old ways. [/quote] That is a stretch. There is a false assumption there; a dire UNDERESTIMATION of the intelligence of the population; and, specifically, an OVERESTIMATION of the cloak that conceals the elitist agenda you just described. It will be achieved by coercion and force, not by the legitimate "cover" you just described; and suspicion of the source of said "calamity" will placed soley upon the elite. [/quote] Thanks Dr. You can't underestimate the intelligence of the populi. I guess, like me, you don't watch much TV. If you did, you would see what I mean. The populi is like a very strong bull that can be easily led with just a little ring through its nose! There is going to be something legitimately supernatural about all of this. That is why, even intelligent people will capitulate. The leader will not come from the elite that we know of. [/quote] This is if we do not reform ourselves first. Hence the thread title. [/quote]
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