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[quote:Wolverine:MV8yMDU3NTM5XzM0NjAzMDY5X0E4RDYzQjMw] [quote:Wolverine:MV8yMDU3NTM5XzM0NjAyOTA2X0Q5NUVERENE] Questions for Islam? Who was the first muslim? Verse from Quran saying moses was first muslim: Verse 7:143 "And when Moses came to our appointed tryst and his Lord had spoken unto him, he said: My Lord! Show me (Thy Self), that I may gaze upon Thee. He said: Thou wilt not see Me, but gaze upon the mountain! If it stand still in its place, then thou wilt see Me, and when his Lord revealed (His) glory to the mountain He sent it crashing down. And Moses fell down senseless. And when he woke he said: Glory unto Thee! I turn unto Thee repentant, and I amn the first of (true) believers." OK SO MOSES WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (KORAN) BUT THERE IS ANOTHER VERSE SAYING MUHAMMAD WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM ???????????? Verse 39:12 (This is Muhammad speaking in this verse) "And I am commanded to be the first of those who are Muslims (surrender unto Him)" So who was it?? Moses or Muhammad??? NEXT QUESTION: Before the angel of light was going to appear to him who was Muhammad worshiping? If it is Allah how did he know of Allah before the angel appeared? NEXT QUESTION: What did Muhammad do to prove he was a prophet!! Every prophet in the bible proved they were a prophet by prophesying something or performing a miracle! What did Muhammad do? NEXT QUESTION: Is Allah forgiving? Quran Verse that says yes: Verse 4:110 "Yet whoso doeth evil or wrongeth his own soul, then seeketh pardon of Allah, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful." Quran Verse that say no: Verse 4:168 "Lo! those who disbelieve and deal in wrong, Allah will never forgive them, neither will He guide them unto a road," NOTE THE WORD NEVER! The Wikipedia definition of never is "At no time" So even if I convert to Islam according to this verse at no time will I be forgiven. Last but not least let us ask this: How can we accurately prove a prophet from the Bible or the Quran is truly a prophet of God? Observe whether or not the predictions of future deeds of people in recorded history are accurately fulfilled. Based on that "It is fairly clear that the Bible manifests the attribute of having many specifically fulfilled prophetic predictions, which constitutes powerful evidence that the Bible truly originates from true prophets of the true almighty God. The Bible meets the challenge which God (YHWH) set out: To predict events of human history. --- In contrast, however, there does not seem to be a single specific prediction of human history in the Qur'an which is unique and original to the Qur'an and was not found in the Bible first (such as some end-time judgment concepts). This lack of predictive power is an announcement that the Qur'an does not clearly demonstrate God's power and authority within its pages. It fails to meet God's challenge." Check this link for educational truth. At least read it then decide! http://worldview3.50webs.com/quranvbible.html [/quote] In no way am I being anti Islam! I am merely asking these serious questions about Islam cause I believe in the bible and I am always open to those that can accurately disprove it. But since it is so hard for people to disprove, especially if you use the medium of math around it or on it. Then I figured I would make it easier and let you prove that your religion is true by proving yours. If not then you can neither prove the bible incorrect nor prove your religion to be correct. Therefore anyone who seeks truth can clearly see that Jesus Christs words in the bible is the only word of GOD! [/quote]
Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.
Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???
Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?
If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.
THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.
When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.
It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.
So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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