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Is 'the Universe' a euphemism for God?
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[quote:Jesse Sovoda:MV8yMDU5NjI2XzM0NjQ2MDMyXzNERDAxQTAy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28127106:MV8yMDU5NjI2XzM0NjQ1OTE5Xzg1NTAzNTY5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28227913:MV8yMDU5NjI2XzM0NjQ1MzIyXzM0MzgzQUY0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28127106:MV8yMDU5NjI2XzM0NjQ1MjM2XzJCOENBNTlC] [quote:K.Kool:MV8yMDU5NjI2XzhFMEQ0QTk0] It seems to me people use it who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, its like a politically correct term to describe the Creator. The Universe is a creation, not the Creator. [/quote] The Creator is All-That-Is. [/quote] Yes. There is no separate Creator. It is Everything. It is the only thing that really exists. [/quote] No. We exist. Inside "It". Here OP, have a read on this, tell me what you think... "This absolute, ever-expanding, instantaneous psychic gestalt, which you call God if you prefer, is so secure in its existence that it can constantly break itself down and rebuild itself. Its energy is so unbelievable, that it does indeed form all universes; and because its energy is within and behind all universes, systems and fields, it is indeed aware of each sparrow that falls, for it is each sparrow that falls. Now - and this will seem like a contradiction in terms - there is nonbeing. It is a state of, not of nothingness, but a state in which probabilities and possibilities are known and anticipated but blocked from expression. Dimly, through what you would call history, hardly remembered, there was such a state. [b]It was a state of agony in which the powers of creativity and existence were known, but the ways to produce them were not known.[/b] This is the lesson that All That Is had to learn, and that could not be taught. This is the agony from which [b]creativity originally was drawn, and its reflection is still seen.[/b] Some of this discussion is bound to be distorted, because I must explain it to you in terms of time as you understand it. So I will speak for your benefit, of some [b]indescribably distant past[/b] in which these events occurred. All That Is retains memory of that state, and it serves as [b]a constant impetus - in your terms - toward renewed creativity.[/b] Each self (you), [color=violet][b]as a part of All That Is therefore also retains memory of that state.[/b][/color] It is for this reason that each minute consciousness is endowed with the impetus toward survival, change, development, and creativity. It is not enough that All That Is as a primary energy gestalt, desires further being, [b]but each portion of It (you) also carries this determination.[/b] Yet the agony itself was used as the means, and the agony itself served as the impetus, [b]strong enough so that All That Is initiated within Itself the means to be.[/b] If - and this is impossible - all portions but the most minute last 'unit' of All That Is were destroyed, All That Is would continue, for within the smallest portion is the innate knowledge of the whole. [b]All That Is protects Itself, therefore, and all that It has and is and will create.[/b] When I speak of All That Is, you must understand my position within It. All That Is knows no other. This does not mean that there may not be more to know. It does not know whether or not other psychic gestalts like It exist. It is not aware of them if they do exist. It is constantly searching. [color=violet][b]It knows that something else existed before Its own primary dilemma when it could not express itself.[/b] [b]It is conceivable then, that It has evolved, in your terms, so long ago It has forgotten Its origin, that It has developed from still another Primary which has - again, in your terms - long since gone Its way. So there are answers that I cannot give you, for they are not known anywhere in the system in which we have our existence. We do know that within this system of our All That Is, creation continues and developments are never still. [/b][/color]" [b]Seth - Jane Roberts[/b] http://www.fromthestars.com/page178.html [/quote] :hf: Awesome, but it's just metaphor until experienced. :yoda: [/quote]
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It seems to me people use it, who are embarrassed to be lumped in with religious folk, it's like a politically correct term to describe the Creator.
The Universe is a creation, not the Creator.
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