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Guantanamo Inmates Could Be Moved To US Jails
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 3095752:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzYwNDk5XzVFQjdGRkVF] [quote:Carshy McCarsh:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5OTU1X0M5QzQ1QUMw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 3095752:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5Nzc5X0Y4REE1OTYz] [quote:Carshy McCarsh:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5NzM0X0UyMDdFMERB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 3095752:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5NjIxXzhBQjQ0RjIz] [quote:Carshy McCarsh:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5NTMxXzkxRTlDMDNC] [quote:Anonymous Coward 13686909:MV8yMDY1OTIyXzM0NzU5NDQ3XzM2MDk5OUZF] Yeah so. Don't let the fear mongers put the fear in you. These are not evil geniuses with death rays. They put a bomb in a back pack. Walk in somewhere and blow themselves up. They are not very smart. They won't create an elaborate Oceans 11 style plan to escape. [/quote] The threat is that once they are in civilian custody in US jails, they will have infinite tax payer-funded legal resources to fuck with us from the inside. Endless appeals, ACLU suits, etc. [/quote] Just because they move locations, doesn't mean their status as an enemy combatant changes. We already have hundreds of "terrorists", conspirators, and suspected terrorists already held in federal prisons. An extra 166 inmates won't change anything, nor cause any problems. [/quote] :putin: OK, regime apologist. [/quote] ? Thanks for contributing. [/quote] http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19497 But the money isnít the worst of it. Moving the detainees into the United States would greatly increase the likelihood that federal judges will order some of them released here. Though the nationís attention has been focused on the administrationís absurd decision to grant the 9/11 plotters a trial in the civilian justice system, the fact is that many, if not most, of the remaining Gitmo detainees will not face a trial of any kind. They are being held under the laws of war, which permit the detention of enemy operatives until the conclusion of hostilities. The threat they pose is terrible, but it is known to us mostly through foreign intelligence that may not be used in trial proceedings. This was not a problem in Americaís prior wars. Handling enemy prisoners was properly considered a military matter. In this war, activist judges urged on by left-wing lawyers have taken on an oversight role: the power, codified by Congress in the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act, to review the legitimacy of military detention. Many civilian judges are fundamentally hostile to the concept of indefinite detention under wartime protocols that do not require proof of a crime. With no political accountability to the voters whose lives are at stake, and no guidance from Congress regarding the rules for these detention proceedings, judges have made abominable rulings, vacating the combatant designations of detainees who were trained in terror camps and clearly connected to the jihadist network. [b]So far, these rulings have not resulted in detaineesí being released in the United States. But that is only because, at present, the detainees are physically kept outside of the country[/b]. In the 2005 Real ID Act, Congress barred aliens who either have been members of terrorist organizations or have received paramilitary training in terrorist camps from entering our nation. Though one judge has tried to order detainees released here regardless, his order was reversed on appeal. Other judges have been hesitant to hold that their power to review detention rulings implies a power to order detainees released, much less released in the United States, in defiance of statutory proscription. [/quote] Sorry, but the scare-mongering isn't going to work with me. We house hundreds of terrorists currently in federal prisons. No one has become radicalized by them. Those held in Gitmo already have the statutory right to file a petition for a writ of habeas corpus, to challenge their detention. Also, if at a CSRT hearing, it is determined that they are not enemy combatants, they are to be released to their country of citizenship or dealt with in accordance to foreign policy. So, the scare-mongering belief that the courts are going to release them to run amok in the US is laughable. Those that get released, are released because they were deemed not to be enemy combatants. [/quote]
The Guantanamo Bay detention centre could be closed and the 166 inmates could be sent to prisons in the US, according to a new government report.
"This report demonstrates that if the political will exists, we could finally close Guantanamo without imperilling our national security," said Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein, the Senate Intelligence Committee chairwoman who released the recommendations.
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