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Moron ATF Agent Seizes 30 Toy Guns! Says They can be Converted! (Video)
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 28147705:MV8yMDY2MjQ3XzM0NzY1MTgxX0JBQTZCRDgz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 27636366:MV8yMDY2MjQ3XzM0NzY0ODg2XzkzQUY3NENB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28147705:MV8yMDY2MjQ3XzM0NzY0ODE2XzQyNkRDRjgz] it actually all depends on the mechanism in the lower receiver, and if a "live" upper is feasibly able to be attached. in my well described as "hell bound" youth my friends and i converted more than a few diecast "super bangcap" guns to functional .22 rimfire zipguns. just because it's a "toy" doesn't render it incapable of actually being converted to a firearm. if you can kluge a .22 rimfire upper to that toy, and get it to fire (even once) it is by definition "readily convertible". if you can get even a single burst from a single trigger pull(even a casual "double"), it is indeed "readily convertible to full auto" by federal law. it sounds ludicrous on face value, but it could well be a justified confiscation. [/quote] lol, nice speech, Spook. When you're done shilling and attempting to dispel accurate perceptions of ATF idiocy, have a listen to the start and end of the video where you can hear the toy's cheap plastic frame smacking against the reporter's palms. [/quote] i guess you missed the story a few months back about the guy who made a functional ar-15 lower from a CAM drawing and one of those "3-d printers". it only functioned with a rimfire upper, but it was for all intents and purposes a completely plastic, functional lower. that part is what constitutes the "firearm" on an ar-15 according to fed regs. the reporter did NOT have one of the confiscated airsoft pieces, she said it was "just like it". i am in no way a shill, but if the lowers were dimensioned such that a rimfire upper could be installed, and the fire control group in that lower was functional or could be replaced readily with a functional FC group that would allow the converted piece to fire, it legally meets the definitions required for the confiscation. i'm no fan of the ATF in any way, but i am aware of the legalities involved. i never declared it a "good" confiscation, i explained why it was possible that it COULD be. [/quote]
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