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The earth is NOT 6000 years old.
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 2902812:MV8yMDY2NDAzXzM0Nzk4MDM1Xzc5QzhGMzcy] [quote:UnmannedAerialPilot:MV8yMDY2NDAzXzM0NzkzMjU5X0YyQTE0QkIw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 5164756:MV8yMDY2NDAzXzM0NzkxNzAzX0MzQzE1QzhC] And if you think that if you can present biblical quotes and passages as empirical evidence, you are dead wrong. I regard that book as a pure work of fiction. If you'd like evidence, I wish you well. You'll be hard pressed to find any. I presented evidence, and all I get in return is snippets from a fictional book. Show me you people have at least a shred of intelligence. [/quote] First of all, let me say I was just going to continue to ignore your trite. It is obvious that you are thoroughly convinced in your own brainwashed little mind, and no amount of evidence to the contrary would or could ever convince you otherwise. I know this, because I used to be just like you. You love to deny God, the Bible, and Creation, because it appeals to your lusts, not to your scientific endeavor. You have a very basic need to deny the Holy One that created you because you find the very thought of an omnipotent being that holds you accountable for your actions and that you must answer to quite despicable. Due to that basic need you are therefore willing to accept fallacy in place of science, theory in place of fact, and the mind of man in place of the mind of God. However, on the other hand, your arrogance and pride have proven to be beyond appalling and I cannot, in good conscience, any longer let your drivel continue unanswered. I, like many readers on this thread I am sure, find myself in a "catch 22" if you will. The Bible explains it like this: [b]"4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit."[/b] -Proverbs 26 I know full well that no manner of logical argument, scientific discovery, empirical evidence, or demonstrable proof will sway your opinion. You are in a state of [i]willful ignorance[/i], and that is a condition that can only be cured by the Holy Ghost. It is a spiritual matter, not a scientific or logically-based one. You believe the lie of evolution because you [i]want[/i] to deny God, and any evidence that contradicts your desire will be quickly discarded. With that being said, instead of refuting your arguments (which any fifth grader can easily do, utilizing a Google search); I will simply quote evolutionary-minded, atheistic, Bible-denying scientists to refute your arguments. [b] “The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages has been a persistent and nagging problem for evolution.”[/b] (Dr. Stephen J. Gould, Evolution Now, p. 140, Professor at Harvard University in Boston). -This problem will continue to nag, and will never go away, because there are no intermediary stages, because macro-evolution is an impossibility. [b]“In the years after Darwin, his advocates hoped to find predictable progressions. In general, these have not been found – yet the optimism has died hard, and some pure fantasy has crept into the textbooks.”[/b] (David M. Raup, “Evolution and the Fossil Record”, Science, Vol. 213, July 17, 1981, p. 289). -The only place intermediary fossils, or the Geologic Column exist, are in the minds of men. [b]“I fully agree with your comments on the lack of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. I will lay it on the line – there is not one such fossil.”[/b] (Dr. Colin Paterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History in correspondence to Luther Sunderland quoted in Darwin’s Enigma 1988, p. 89). -This quote was in answer to being asked why Dr. Paterson failed to provide any intermediary examples in his book on evolution. Mind you that the British Museum of Natural History is home to the largest fossil collection in the world. [b]“The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one out of 10 to the power of 40,000…It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor on any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence.”[/b] (Sir Fredrick Hoyle, professor of astronomy, Cambridge University). -Ahh yes, the great Sir Fredrick Hoyle, considered by many to be the greatest astronomer ever to live, realized the idiocy of rocks springing forth life and mutating into the world around us. [b]“To suppose that the eye…could have been formed by natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” [/b] (Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life. 1859, p. 217). -Astute observation, Charlie. [b]“I was a young man with unformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion out of them!”[/b] (Charles Darwin on this Theory of Evolution). -This is a very important quote, especially the last part of it. He was absolutely right. Evolutionary science is simply a religion, repackaged. The evidence is no different, it is the interpretation of the evidence that holds the opposition. Make no mistake about it, believing the Bible's description of Creation and believing trillions of years, molecules-to-man evolution are BOTH religions, the only real difference being that one of them is tax payer funded. [b]“In fact, evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to “bend” their observations to fit in with it.” [/b] (H.S. Lipson, Professor of Physics, University of Manchester, UK). -Dr. Lipson is killing it! The data collected from radio-metric dating that doesn't fit into a presupposed "range" of dates is immediately thrown out. Your 99% is not only a bald-faced lie, but even if it was 99%, it is only because all the data that doesn't mesh is thrown out and not counted. The presupposed "date" range is produced by the Geologic Column. The Column is circular reasoning. They use the fossils found in a certain "layer" to determine the age of the layer of rock, then turn around and use the "date" of the layer to determine the age of the fossils found therein! It is a scientific abomination. It is voodoo science. Just look: [b]"The rocks do date the fossils, but the fossils date the rocks more accurately. Stratigraphy cannot avoid this kind of reasoning if it insists on using only temporal concepts, because circularity is inherent in the derivation of time scales."[/b], American Journal of Science, Vol. 276, p.53 -Hahaha it is this kind of idiocy that proves that this fiasco called junk science is nothing more than willful ignorance. Want more? [b]"The intelligent layman has long suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date rocks. The geologist has never bothered to think of a good reply."[/b] - J.E. O'Rourke, "Pragmatism vs. Materialism in Stratigraphy," American Journal of Science, January 1976, p. 48. -You see, it is not a matter of empirical evidence that drives the Theory of Evolution, just a matter of willful ignorance. The bottom line is this: Man is a sinful and rebellious creature that does not want to have to answer for our choices. The thought of a Being that would deny us our lusts is repugnant to our nature. We loathe the thought of being accountable for sin, so we hire prophets in white lab coats to give credence to an illogical theory, then appeal to their authority when challenged with evidence to the contrary. Make no bones about it: Your willful ignorance will not be good enough on the day of judgment. The evidence is all around you, you just refuse to accept it because you hate the thought of having to answer to God. Instead of humbly bowing down to the One that made you, you allow yourself to be deceived into believing that [i]nothing[/i] exploded trillions of years ago, laws were created without a Legislature, lifeless matter spontaneously quickened, and random mutations facilitated the turning of one [i]kind[/i] of creature into another. The Bible puts it a different way: [b]"18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20[i]For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.[/i] 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."[/b] -Romans 1 The words of UAP are finished. [/quote] http://lesswrong.com/lw/kv/beware_of_stephen_j_gould/ Stephen j. Gould was an idiot. He was wrong about everything. Nobody respected him, not because we hate fools, but because he was wrong wrong wrong. I could say the same about all these quotes, but again, they aren't evidence. These are opinions that have been proved wrong. It is also curious why you quoted my second reply and not my first, that disproved your statements entiry. Your move Dr. .-Chris. [/quote]
Do the Christians of this forum have an opinion on this? Its pretty controversial to confront Christian belief of creation. What about when its done by one of your own?
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