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what are the advantages and disadvantages of declaring personal sovereignty???
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 20901334:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzczMTE2XzdEODY2OTQx] [quote:Goodmen 16778386:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzczMDQ3Xzc2MzRDN0E1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 20901334:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyODgyXzFDNDQ0QUZC] [quote:Goodmen 16778386:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyODI4XzY3RTRCNkY=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 20901334:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyNzc4XzcwNTVGODE3] [quote:Goodmen 16778386:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyNzM2X0YzODExMDE0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 19588417:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyNjY5XzFGOEI5M0Y3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 14667725:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyNjAxXzQ3MEFCQzQz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 19588417:MV8yMDY2NjEwXzM0NzcyNTQwXzU2MjdGNzg4] Something that's not fiction: Real laws cannot be broken, "Laws" as you define them are not laws, but fiction. If you agree to obey something that does not exist I wouldn't go about complaining about your ills, you agreed to live in a fantasy world therefore your problems are your own fault. [/quote] but what if here in this fckn poland you got fined for drinkin beer 2 am going home? you fight - they make sht out of u... cmon whit the natural law... i like to party:5a: [/quote] Money does not exist except as a concept in the imagination. If you did not place the idea of currency as your king then who cares about a fine? Oops [/quote] Money is not imaginary. Money is a division of worth of labor. Since I can trade my Dollars for goods and services and I must provide goods or services to make more of that imaginary money- it has value because we agree it does. The barter system is too hard. I need some Apples but my skill is Home building (not really, but...) there is no way to really trade this- So we provide a "perceived value" attached to the currency (be it Gold, Silver , paper or electronic) which I can parcel out into smaller purchases. Funny the people who keep hawking this "Imaginary paper fiat money" ideal will gladly take your Dollars for their services (and spend them) and will gladly take your imaginary paper dollars for their "real" Gold. Again, Philosophically speaking you are correct. real World application, not so much. [/quote] Federal Reserve NOTES are not money, they are "legal tender" states it right there in black and white. There you go, projecting your beliefs on a NOTE and calling it "money", your premiss is flawed because you are ignorant. [/quote] Its Debt (if you wish to get technical)- But.... Money is a generic term. You work, your paid, you spend...Money. [/quote] It is not a generic term, the law of the land in the Republic is clear on what is legal tender for debts and has been since before this nation existed. There are many forms of legal tender and there are contractual forms of lawful money, but that is a matter of agreement between two parties and is NOT the law of the land, but is contractually binding (and therefore lawful). You are a novice at this, I can tell. Keep trying, you might learn something. [/quote] It was a generic term in my usage since this thread isnt about money, legal tender or currency and this whole line was a sidetrack since the whole "Money is a fiction" came up. Anyhow, I wouldnt consider myself a novice on monetary policy but no expert either. In fact, I have read a couple books which touched on it and watched a few you tube vids (like Money masters and Money as Debt) but my take was on the Anthropological use of money- i.e. barter is impossible on a large scale so we break our labor into ...Money. But yes, Money is not something I have extensively studied (nor plan to) but its real enough that it keeps me in a warm dry house, food in my belly and occasionally a few beers. I couldnt possibly barter with all the people who provide services for me- So...It works. =) Plus you guys need to use a damn name tag- I am not sure if you are the FMOTL guy or someone else. Seriously... [/quote] There you go trying to label me again, screw your FMOTL, sovereign citizen labels. You are a man and NOTHING gives you any more rights, privileges or powers over me or anyone else. I could not care less about TITLES, jobs or "elections" nobody on this earth has any power not granted to all, that is the fact. I defy you to prove otherwise. As for the Federal Reserve, it does not "work" and is going to be the device that destroys us all eventually. Still no proof you (or anyone) has any power over me. Waiting...(but not really). [/quote]
i recently stumbled upon this would like more insight please glp if you know help me out. thank you.
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