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Subject what are the advantages and disadvantages of declaring personal sovereignty???

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Here is my take on it.

Fact: their "laws" do not apply equally to those who make the laws.

Therefore, they cannot be laws at all, there must be agreement the law makers have jurisdiction over me. I have asked for proof and they have never provided it.

Oh and I defy anyone on this thread to prove jurisdiction over me.
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Yup, you are a FMOTL or Sovereign. Heard the same thing a million times. nearly the same words (do you guys have a copy/paste site)

"prove jurisdiction"- I do not have to. Your Shit doesnt work, never has and never will. Tell it to the Judge. I challenge you to go drive without plates and insurance (something you guys claim is your "right" to "travel") and film it. Then post the results.

-Ask the Officer and Judge the Jurisdiction question.

You guys are too cute.
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I have done it. And screw you and your labels, I am a living man with unalienable rights,endowed by my creator, prove otherwise. You putting labels on me does not make it true, so keep them to yourself.

You typing words here does not make you have some magic power that makes you right and me wrong.

Prove YOUR jurisdiction that I am not free, right here, right now.
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Those not familiar with you and your ilks voodoo are getting a prime example right here of how nuts you guys are.

"prove your jurisdiction" is all you say when we are having a discussion. The burden of proof is not on me, friend. I do not claim to know the secrets of making Judges and Police quake in fear by my superior knowledge.

Does anyone really believe you could stand there (not giving a name) in front of a Judge, question his Jurisdiction and then...Walk... I mean...Really, lol.?
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Still waiting for your proof, big talker.

And yes, I have done it more than once, so whatcha got?

Prove it or shut up, wanker.
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LOL.

I posted a 200 page thread where Rob Menard (major FMOTL leader and lecturer) tries to use those same arguments and after YEARS still has not one piece of proof.

Claim after claim after claim (with people trying this shit getting jailed) always becomes "they didnt do it right" (after spending THOUSANDS to "learn" how to do it.)

Then you idiots try playing internet lawyer and asking things like "prove your jurisdiction"

Look, the burden of proof is on you. Your shit doesnt work. its a joke and you are a liar...If not, prove it. I am not making claims, I am laughing at yours.

So what do I have to prove? Want links to major news stories? Want more links to other Gurus who never have proof? And these guys are the "masters" who give lectures on this shit. Since they cannot prove it neither can you because it is LIES. =)

Or is this menard? If so I miss you on Randi and on Icke and your new scam of making your own money didnt work too well huh?
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200 pages? Sounds very obsessive to me, I suppose you feel empowered by your own bullshit?

Good for you!

Now, proceed with your damn proof anything you say or do has any power over me and we can go from there.

You still have not provided any proof.
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YOU REALLY ARE DENSE.I am sure you "eat those Judges alive with your knowledge"

I posted a 200 page thread - How is that Obsessive? Its not MY thread. Its a thread about one of your leaders which was done over several years- And he joins in from page 1. The proof is all there.

I dont want to have power over you? I dont even get that? But someone stronger and more powerful and with the LAW on their side (i.e. the Police) most certainly do- In the same way Mike Tyson would have "power over you" if you were alone in a dark Forest with him and he wanted to.

Jesus fucking christ.
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Original Message i recently stumbled upon this would like more insight please glp if you know help me out. thank you.

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