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QUESTION: Why are LEFTISTS so accepting of AUTHORITARIANISM?
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[quote:s. d. butler:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MjgzMTA5Xzc0MUUwMEEw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17152779:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg1OTI1X0UyNzI1MkMz] [quote:071676:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg1NzI3XzZFMjFFRTU=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17152779:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg1NDEwX0IxRUQ2NkRD] [quote:071676:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg1MjQ4X0M2Q0M2NjE5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17152779:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg0ODg0X0Q2RTQ4NzhE] [quote:071676:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg0NzA5XzZCRDAzNjA1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17152779:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg0NjM1XzQ4ODk0M0RB] [quote:071676:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzM1MTg0NTA2X0Y4RUJGRkZB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28799859:MV8yMDY3NDAyXzFGQUQzNTgy] I already know the answer(s), I'm just looking for some other input. Seems to me that the same people who are always so freaking worried about their "rights" have no problem sacrificing their liberties to the like minded. Is this what Benjamin Franklin meant when he said that those who would sacrifice essential liberties for security deserve neither liberty or security? [/quote] The biggest reason is because Leftists always need a guiding hand to run their lives. They don't want to take responsibility for their own lives, only other people's lives. With a strong government ruling everything they do, they do not have to think, work, or act by themselves, therefore they can never be wrong, and eagerly accept any and all baubles that the government consents to give them while patting them on the head. Look at the record. The Democrats and Liberals all scream the official government line, never standing to hear what is actually being said. Republicans want to lessen government control over our lives by limiting it's reach. Patroits are now considered terrorists because they demand that the Constitution be followed. One question I do have concerning their ultra liberal ideology. If it is right that millionaires should be taxed more, then why do the rich DEMOCRAT BILLIONAIRES refuse to pay their taxes? Soros, Buffett, and others have refused to pay any taxes for the last ten years, are continuing to fight the IRS over their taxes, and yet they were the first to agree with Obama's tax increase. [/quote] That's a nice narrative. The problem with Republicans is they believe their own narratives, even though they're demonstrably false. If you spent any time in a major city you would realize that a significant proportion of successful, hard-working people hold liberal views, while many of those on welfare vote GOP. [/quote] I have always avoided large cities. But I do NOT believe your narrative on the welfare people voting Republican. Case in point. NO large city voted for Romney. NONE! All voted overwhelmingly for Obama, unless you are conceeding that there was massive voter fraud. [/quote] Large cities is where liberalism works best. If you don't get liberalism, it's because you also don't get urbanism. The rural conservative mentality of "me, my family, and my guns against the world" simply doesn't work in a city. In fact, it seems completely absurd to an urbanite. Also, you are mistaken in thinking the welfare recipients are all in large cities. Some are, but many others are in low-density trailer parks far from any major city. Such people are mostly white, dirt poor, and vote Republican, and they number in the millions. [/quote] I sense that you are talking about your particular state. Where I am from, most of the larger cities still vote in a more democratic party mode, with the outlying areas voting republican. Your so-called "trailer park" voters usually don't vote. They may accept government handouts, but seldom vote as a block, but if they do, I have yet to see any impact upon the voting results. It still comes down to where most of the people that accept government handouts are the ones that will overwhelmingly vote democratic party. This does not include those accepting social security, as most do not see that as an entitlement, but as a reward that they have paid into for many years of labor. It is right that people that have done what is expected from them to be rewarded with what they justly deserve, but I will never accept the right of those that do NOT add to the country to be the ones that decides who should receive and who shall not. [/quote] You are simply restating the false narrative that conservatives are hard working and responsible while liberals are lazy whiners who want handouts. That is a Republican myth, not reality. It isn't that liberalism doesn't work, it's that you fail to understand how it works within it's proper context. [/quote] I do truly understand liberalism, I happen to be married to one. I have yet to understand the reasoning behind the ideations of most liberals. I do not understand why everyone HAS to be a winner, why everyone shall have a RIGHT to something that requires time, effort, and money. I will never understand why some should NOT have to work, earn, or put forth the effort that others do in order to have the same things. I am NOT rich, I worked my ass off for over thirty years, unknowingly destroying my lungs in the process, and when I started receiving disability, having half of it taken away to support those that would rather sit on their ass and do nothing and actually receive more handouts from the government that I have a right to collect! [/quote] You have just proven that you do not understand liberalism. Liberalism is not about handouts, laziness, or dependence on government; that is merely a deliberate mischaracterization made by pundits on the right. [/quote] Historically no, but that is most certainly what it means now. [/quote]
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I already know the answer(s), I'm just looking for some other input. Seems to me that the same people who are always so freaking worried about their "rights" have no problem sacrificing their liberties to the like minded.
Is this what Benjamin Franklin meant when he said that those who would sacrifice essential liberties for security deserve neither liberty or security?
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