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Mysterious bacteria 'superbug' spreads across country - and it can't be stopped
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1NzIzXzNBMzc4Qjc1] [quote:my2centsworth:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1NTk2X0FBMkQ3MjVG] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1Mzk5XzNFMUYxMzdD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MzU5XzkyQUE1Qzcw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MzMxX0NBMkI3M0M0] [quote:my2centsworth:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MTk4XzRBOUNGNzg0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI0NTg2X0I4QTI0N0I=] microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods. Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly. Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!! Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug. I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space. [/quote] So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire? That is NOT reassuring AC! [/quote] it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc. Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small. [/quote] to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc. [/quote] as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact. [/quote] I'm currently watching CBC "The National" news program.. they just did a piece about seniors who cannot be discharged because they need medical care, but not necissarily hospital care.. and [b]the doctor said, this puts the seniors in danger due to SUPER BUGS that are spread in hospitals. [/b]They then went on to say there needs to be more senior care facilities.. etc. So they are admitting to this problem on MSM news! It must be very prolific for them to admit to something liks Super bugs spreading in hospitals. Best look after yourself at home whenever possible and stay out of hospitals! Who'd have thought we would get sicker by going to the hospital? That is just a nightmare scenario for those who have to go to the hospital for care. [/quote] [quote:my2centsworth:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1NTk2X0FBMkQ3MjVG] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1Mzk5XzNFMUYxMzdD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MzU5XzkyQUE1Qzcw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MzMxX0NBMkI3M0M0] [quote:my2centsworth:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI1MTk4XzRBOUNGNzg0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28960778:MV8yMDY5MjY0XzM0ODI0NTg2X0I4QTI0N0I=] microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods. Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly. Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!! Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug. I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space. [/quote] So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire? That is NOT reassuring AC! [/quote] it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc. Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small. [/quote] to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc. [/quote] as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact. [/quote] I'm currently watching CBC "The National" news program.. they just did a piece about seniors who cannot be discharged because they need medical care, but not necissarily hospital care.. and [b]the doctor said, this puts the seniors in danger due to SUPER BUGS that are spread in hospitals. [/b]They then went on to say there needs to be more senior care facilities.. etc. So they are admitting to this problem on MSM news! It must be very prolific for them to admit to something liks Super bugs spreading in hospitals. Best look after yourself at home whenever possible and stay out of hospitals! Who'd have thought we would get sicker by going to the hospital? That is just a nightmare scenario for those who have to go to the hospital for care. [/quote] superbugs aren't totally a new discovery, by anyone really. We try to do what we can to the limit of our understanding of how these bugs operate/resistance to getting killed/etc. by treating patients the best we can, it isn't always perfect, that's what its a "medical practice", even doctors aren't pros when it comes to healthcare, they all follow the same set of procedures/controls that has stood the test of time, and proven (statistically that if this is what you do, you should get so and so results) to work, alot of the times. when you're older, into your senior age, your thymus gland slowly deteriorate, i.e. getting smaller and smaller, this reduces the amount of circulating and production of the t-helper cells, which are responsible for detection and destruction of the infected cells or bacteria, and get rid of it by sending signals to the cytotoxic t-cells to do its job, which is to kill virally infected cells and foreign antigens(in this case, it would be the bacteria by phagocytosis). so naturally, its the really old ones and the really young ones with their immune system still developing, that are at a more higher risk of getting these infections. 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Carbapenem-Resistant Enterobacteriaceae kills 40 percent of its victims.
There is little chance that an effective drug to kill CRE bacteria will be produced in the coming years.
CRE infections already are endemic in several major U.S. population centers, including New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. Smaller pockets of cases have been reported across much of the country, including Oregon, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia and South Carolina.
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