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[color=indigo][b]Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh[/b][/color]

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.
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[b][color=indigo]I will love someone to show me how you get three days and three nights from good friday evening to sunday morning[/color][/b]

Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion

:NOTES:
[color=orange][u][b]This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures![/b][/u][/color]
[b]**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**[/b].

[b][u][color=blue]I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic  week*" [/color][/u][/b]

[u][b]The book of Daniel chapter 9[/b][/u]

:IOYU:
Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

[color=red][b]He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe[/b][/color].

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.

[u][color=blue][b]Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave[/b][/color][/u]

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. [u][b][color=red]And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights[/color][/b][/u].

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Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 [u][color=red][b]For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth[/b][/color][/u]

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[color=darkred][b][u]LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER[/u]![/b][/color]

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

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[color=red][b]THE EVENING[/b][/color]

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[color=red][b]THE MORNING[/b][/color]

[u][b]Reference[/b][/u]:[color=orange][u][b]The Book of Genesis chapter 1[/b][/u][/color] 
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 [b]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. [color=red]And the evening and the morning were the first day[/color].[/b]

[b][color=orange]**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD**[/color] [u][color=red]"BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU[/color][/u]![/b]

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Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover.  So...  Approx 6pm

In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.

Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
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[color=orange][b]**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**! [/b][/color]

[color=blue][u][b]LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN![/b][/u][/color]

[u][b]Luke chapter 23[/b]
54 And that day was the preparation, [color=red][b]and the sabbath drew on.[/b][/color]

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
 
56[color=red][b] And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment[/b][/color].
 
[u][b]NOTES[/b][/u]:[u][color=blue]This paticular sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover.It is a known law that if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath[/color][/u]

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[u][b]NOTES[/b][/u]:[u][color=blue]Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after which will take us unto the weekly Shabbat.They jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approaching as I showed in chapter 23.

Also we have another account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.

Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic[/color][/u]

[b][color=orange]account #1[/color][/b]
[b][u]Matthew Chapter 28[/u][/b]
28:1 [color=darkred][b]In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week[/b][/color], came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

[b][color=orange]account #2[/color][/b]
[u][b]Luke chapter 24[/b][/u]
1 [b]Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning[/b], they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
 
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
 
3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

:yjghf:[color=red][b]THANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD![/b][/color]

[b]To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous[/b] 
[color=red][b]you are very correct[/b][/color]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHkE7RaO20[/youtube]

[u][b]NOTES:[/b][/u][color=blue][u][b]Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated  false relationship.[/b][/u][/color]

O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-

[u][color=darkred][b]LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED[/b][/color][/u].

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[u][b]Origins of Good Friday[/b][/u]. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

[color=red][b]*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*[/b][/color]

[b][color=red]*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*[/color][/b]
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[b]When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly[/b]. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was  jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. [b]Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration[/b] (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.
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does it really matter what day the savior was resurrected?
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THANK YOU ...YOU ARE MARVELOUSLY BRIGHT!
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Original Message Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.

I will love someone to show me how you get three days and three nights from good friday evening to sunday morning

Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion

This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures!
**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**.

I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic week*"

The book of Daniel chapter 9

Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe.

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.

Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o

LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER!

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

THE EVENING

THE MORNING

Reference:The Book of Genesis chapter 1
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD** "BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU!

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm

In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.

Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.

-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O--O-O-O-O-O--O
**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**!

LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!

Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

NOTES:This paticular sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover.It is a known law that if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath

NOTES:Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after which will take us unto the weekly Shabbat.They jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approaching as I showed in chapter 23.

Also we have another account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.

Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic

account #1
Matthew Chapter 28
28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

account #2
Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

THANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD!

To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct

NOTES:Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated false relationship.

O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-

LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED.

Origins of Good Friday. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*

*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*

When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.

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