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I tried to "break" the universe, and here is what I found...
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I started off with a few postulates that I could potentially probe and disprove as a starting ground, ones that I thought might be the actual roots/premise of the universe itself... if you will; (if there even is such a thing).
Here are the two I came up with (they seemed good to me, at least).
postulate #1 That we live in a system based only on determinism, rather than say... free-will.
postulate #2 That we live in a simulation, more precisely, that our "actual self" is not actually where our current "projected self" resides.
Immediately I began to search for any shread of prove or facts or evidence that may prove or disprove these claims, things such as:
1.1) The background radidation of the universe being random, chaos theory, quantum randomness.
How could a universe that is deterministic have any randomness at all? A variable output given a singular static starting input state? Just a vast Pseudo-random environment only appearing true-random because of a small lense of observation? (Earth solar system)
2.1) Sitting absolutely still for hours, giving the "simulation" minimal input. Repeating the exact same actions day-in and day-out for weeks while observing/expecting different results to manifest in the simulation.
The Butterfly effect, just the fact that you have to move to go eat some food to stay alive, that small action and the choice you made of what to eat, snowballs into an infinite multi-verse of potential outcomes.
The "physical laws" if you will, prevent you from remaining in the simulation without causing it to change, or would result in your exiting of it in the form of death. I find that morbidly disturbing (sort of).
Further more I noticed that others continued to act normal, regardless of how I attempted to "control" the simulation.
This leads me to conclude that:
The only way to have free-will in a closed environment with immutable laws and determistic cause/effect behaviour, would mean that would you have to actually be living in a "simulation", external to your actual self; otherwise the universe would break its own closed-system laws of non-determinism (outputs exceed inputs).
So there are two possible states (assuming my logic is correct):
1) You believe that fate is predetermined, and you are essentially a robot following your programming. (Powered by pure randomness, or some sick game that god is playing upon you.)
2) Otherwise, you have no choice but to conclude that this universe isn't actually real (at best it is a simulation). Powered by a mix of your will-power, and/or randomness, and/or god. This option seems appealing for several obvious reasons. But still seemingly hollow because you thought that a simulation would be more comforting than the real-deal.
But in either case, you have somewhere between minimal-to-zero control over what happens in this place, or more specifically... to you; simply from the factual observations of seemingly immutable laws, by choice or force of hand.
I personally find both options highly disturbing to varying degrees. Don't you agree? and so what do you believe this place is, if not either of those two?
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