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sun in wrong place...cant believe im even thinking it...tell me when i made the mistake....uk
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[quote:Hydra:MV8yMDc3MjU5XzM1MDUzMTAwXzQzMUZDRTlE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 29871220:MV8yMDc3MjU5XzM1MDQ2NTQ5XzUzMThDMjYz] [quote:Hydra:MV8yMDc3MjU5XzM1MDQ2MTc3Xzk4ODQxNDdC] And this is exactly what astronomers (amateur and professional) do: They have stringent criteria and controls on telescope and camera equipment set up for years. And none of the astronomers (amateur and professional) claims the position of the sun is off. Au contraire - they all say the sun is exactly where it is supposed to be. [/quote] This brings up an issue that, without expertise in the field of astronomy, I have been wondering about Hydra. Not sure what your background is or if you can answer this but the question is: There is much discussion of 'everything being exactly where it is supposed to be'. But when astronomers take measurements on the position of celestial bodies, aren't they made in comparison with other celestial markers? In other words, are the measurements being made of only what's going on in the sky or are they actually accounting for how the sky relates incrementally to earth markers? [/quote] Sorry AC 29871220 for my late reply - after my last post I went to sleep (at 03:20 German time). There are two commonly used alignment techniques: 1) Alignment to Polaris 2) Two star drift techniques Both are described here: http://www.astro-tom.com/tips_and_advice/precision_polar_alignment.htm 1) gives you an exact alignment to the north celestial pole (NCP). You can bring it even closer by using a crosshair eyepiece (with scale) and use fainter stars closer to the NCP. 2) (in my opinion) gives only a relative position compared to other stars - but a quick look at polaris would tell you when the NCP would be off. I own a stationary telescope, set up and aligned years before, correction for the precession every now and then. The error margin is +/- 1.6 arcmin at maximum - far, far below visual recognition. Last time I corrected for the precession was on occasion of the http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2072050/pg16#34964458 I hope this answers your question. As i said before: Astronomers (amateur and professional) have stringent criteria and controls on telescope and camera equipment set up for years. None of them claims the position of the sun is off. Au contraire - they all say the sun is exactly where it is supposed to be. . [/quote]
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ok so i was putting the rubbish out for recycling and looked up to see the sun rising over the horizon...beautiful, stood freezing my tits off for a min looking at it when i realised that it was not in the east...
dont all start shouting at once, im probably wrong put it was def south east not east....i know where north is as i had an app on my last phone but i also have an old fashion compas too so ran into look for it and couldnt believe it...even got 17 y/o son to check it as he would understand it better as hes done 3 yrs at cadets and agreed...
please explain the mistake i made to me as i have always been one to poohoo the whole sun moving pole shift stuff but got to say...im more than alittle shocked!!!
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