Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,101 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 806,737
Pageviews Today: 1,057,923Threads Today: 265Posts Today: 3,834
08:58 AM


Back to Forum
Back to Forum
Back to Thread
Back to Thread
REPLY TO THREAD
Subject JN DARBY AND THEOLOGIANS ARE WRONG, THE GRACE PERIOD WAS ESTABLISHED THE DAY THE FATHER REPENTED AND GAVE MERCY BACK TO ISRAEL
User Name
 
 
Font color:  Font:








In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
Original Message JN Darby is the gentile who created the bible dispensation of time. He has established this lie and this doctrine is the corner stone of christianity.
HIS DOCTRINE STATES THAT THE GRACE PERIOD STARTED WHEN PAUL THE APOSTLE WENT TO THE GENTILES

From the day the father announced to the prophets that he will restore his people in the end time that was the grace of the father towards his people in effect.

Your new testament teaches this very same thing. The grace for israel was given and no works was required because the father made this promise to the lost tribes an he cannot lie

I will prove that because christians take these vereses out of context and apply it to themselves and say his grace is sufficient and they don't need do works and follow no laws.
**WELL! NEWS FLASH THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GENTILES THE PROMISE TO ISRAEL WAS NOT BECAUSE OF WORKS BUT THE GRACE AND A GIFT FROM THE FATHER**


I will show you that this was only applied to the lost sheep of Israel and the gentile nations became recipients of the promise because only because israel fell.The gentile nation have to comply with the standards set before Israel by messiah

jkjkjj


ROMANS CHAPTER 11


1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
1 Kings 19:10, 14

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
1 Kings 19:18

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.Israel not the church


6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it[JUDAH], and the rest were blinded.

NOTE: ISRAEL WAS NOT IN ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY WERE CAST OUT 2ND KINGS CHP 17 VERSE 17 SO THEY WERE NOT THERE TO SEE THE COMING OF MESSIAH. THE ELECT MEANING JUDAH WAS THERE TO RECIEVE THE WORD

WHO IS THE ELECT?
For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Isa 29:10


9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Psa 69:22

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
Psa 69:23

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?


13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Isa 59:20

27
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Isa 59:21

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief,
Pictures (click to insert)
5ahidingiamwithranttomatowtf
bsflagIdol1hfbumpyodayeahsure
banana2burnitafros226rockonredface
pigchefabductwhateverpeacecool2tounge
 | Next Page >>





GLP