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All of the MEDIA are in on it! CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. Who can we trust?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 13390701:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg5MDYwX0JDQTgzMTU=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 13390701:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg4ODIxX0FFMEU0MDVB] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg4NzA4X0VFQjhERDQx] [quote:Anonymous Coward 13390701:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg4NjM1X0JBRTY5ODA4] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg3Njc1Xzg2RTk0RDVB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 15044657:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg3MzYzXzcwNUExQkM1] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg0NTMwXzgyMUM2RDY2] [quote:^TrInItY^:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg0MzMzXzFGOTg0MDZF] Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. [/quote] [quote:^TrInItY^:MV8yMDgzNjM0XzM1MDg0MzMzXzFGOTg0MDZF] Trust in your ability to discern truth from fiction.. Trust in universal truth.. We all know truth inside us.. At least here the universe is free to converse with itself unfettered. [/quote] That's BS, there's no intrinsic knowing in most people, to get to such state of enlightenment, if indeed it exist, takes much work which most people are not willing to undertake. We need to rely on logic and reason, which most people do not possess either but at least we have more of a chance to collectively attain. [/quote] This is the problem with most people. Let me guess, you're an atheist too, right? It doesn't take a state of pure enlightenment to know the difference between right and wrong, truth and untruth. If you have a problem knowing the difference between what is true and what is untrue then you are already in a state of complete denial in your life. A liar can't tell the difference between truth and lies, but someone honest, open, and connected to God can. That is the one MAIN thing God has given all of us. The divine intuition to know the truth when we see/hear/feel it. We all have the light of God in us and God knows truth. People just stuff that divine intuition because everything you have ever encountered in our society is against our better judgement. The propaganda that is constantly pumped into us from the very sources named in the OP (along with everywhere else) is specifically designed to make people question their intuition, think "everyone else is doing it" and then conform themselves right to hell. They knew better all along, but they went against themselves. Once you get that far, you won't know the difference between true and untrue, and that is when your logic fails you. To use logic you would have to consider every possible outcome and most of you aren't smart enough to do that. Not only that, but to use logic, you have to know truth. Therefore, your logic has already failed you if you think it's superior to truth. [/quote] Your argument implies that if people were left outside of the influence of what you consider evil in society they would all naturally reach the same idea of morality based on a "god given" intuition, and that is simply illogical on two counts. First you can't ever argue that people can be fully outside of the influence of evil at any point, and secondly cultures that existed in isolation for thousands of years reached completely different concepts of ethics and morals. Thus your "god given" intuition factor becomes a non factor in the greater equation as there's no way to provide any evidence regarding its nature or that it has ever influenced humanity by its own volition in any widespread manner. It would become a factor if you could prove that this intuition you speak about can defeat the undesirable influences that society creates, but as according to your own argumentation it clearly succumbs to them then how can it serve for any purpose? Clearly even if it existed it is not the solution for our problems. If you argue that this intuition becomes widespread only within a perfect society then it might as well not exist as a perfect society has never been found, and if a perfect society would exist what purpose would that intuition serve anyway? Also you're argument about logic is incongruent. Logic is the way to reach truth, without logic whatever truth you may think you have found must rely upon faith and the arguments of faith can't ever be proven. [/quote] [color=darkblue][/color] Your premise that " 'god given' intuition is illogical" is in error, because, "....even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as Godk or give thanks; but THEY BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR SPECULATIONS, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEART WAS DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE THEY BECAME FOOLS. AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE IN THE FORM OF CORRUPTIBLE MAN..... (they then made idols to worship) Romans 1:21-23 The Bible gives us TRUTH. The truth here states that God has put the knowledge of good and evil in the heart of men. They know God's truth, His righteousness by instinct, because HE HAS PLACED IT IN THEIR HEARTS. Cultures have arrived at a different "truth" as you state, but because they verse 25 they deliberately chose to believe lies. "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie." Yes, people deviate from God's standards and form their own defective compasses for right and wrong. That is because, as illustrated in the Bible and through history over and over and over again, "Every man did what was right in his own eyes." When they do that, and exchange God's truth for a lie, God gives them over to their lusts and impurity and unrighteousness. The answers are here in the Book of Truth, just as bright as day. Thoughtfully read the first chapter of Romans. God explains this standard of righteousness and how men have strayed from it, and the consequences. Sin is enslaving and increasingly evil; the solution is through salvation in Jesus Christ! It's the only solution. [/quote] That's the point you moran, if people possessed an inner god given intuition which by nature should grant them a moral compass, then they wouldn't need the bible, and the biblical tenets would have been accomplished through this inner truth springing out of all peoples of the world by its own volition, instead of through a book written in only one region by one culture at one determinate time frame. You already had to quote the damned bible because you have no mind of your own, you lame drone. [/quote] [color=darkblue][/color] God 's initial dispensation for men was conscience. He has put the knowledge in their hearts. He also placed knowledge of Him in all of nature (creation). Now He has provided us with the Scriptures, which all people in this 21st century have available to them. No man at any time since the world began has an excuse. God states "His eternal power and divine nature have been clealy seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." No one has an excuse for not know God and His righteousness. No one. Not you, not me, not the shooters, not the politicians.....no one. [/quote] [color=darkblue][/color] P.S. Manu: to your statement that I had to quote the Bible because I have no mind of my own, I reply: The reason we are here is to learn how to live and to learn to live by the Word of God, working it out into life. Unless we learn to feed on the Word, we will never manage life successfully. We are to learn, to know personally in a day by day relationship the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the basis of true life, of true knowledge. I prayerfully hope for you that you will thoughtfully read Romans, the first chapter clearly explains that His grace gives us the power to keep the law, that people who exclude God have distorted thinking, and that there is enough knowledge of God in conscience and in nature to induce worship for the true, living God. I hope you discover the truth: God's standard for righteousness, the way to manage this life successfully and the Way to God's eternal kingdom. God bless you. [/quote]
Original Message
>Watch CNN
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"we need to get rid of the guns and the videos games"
>change to MSNBC
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"We have to take a look at people without the facebook and those who don't hang out with friends who stay inside all day and play video games"
>change to fox
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"Just like after 9/11 we might have to sacrifice some rights for the safety of our kids"
Holy shit.. It's happening fuck! Everyone is in on it!
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