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Penn & Teller: Bullshit! - Gun Control
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[quote:andreidita:MV8yMDg0ODY0XzM1MTA4NzE5XzlFOUQzREY2] an argument made by a friend: "Here is hard data. The United States has 88.8 guns for every 100 people in the country, the homicide rate by firearm is 2.97 per 100,000 population. The theory is that if we reduce US gun ownership of firearms there will be fewer murders by firearms—whether their will be more murders by other methods is generally ignored. So, how does gun ownership correlate with murder by fire arms? Anguilla has "no" firearms but their homicide rate by firearms is 7.15. Argentina is at 3.02 with only 10.2 firearms per 100. The Bahamas have a only 5.3 guns per 100,000 with 15.37 firearm deaths per 100,000 population. I will mention Bangladesh because their gun ownership is 1/2 per 100 people yet their death by firearms are still 1.12 per 100,000. In Barbados only 7.8 people out of 100 own firearms, but the rate was 2.99. In Belize there is only 1 firearm for every ten people, yet the homicide rate by firearm is 21.82. In Brazil only 8 weapons per 100 people exist, yet the firearm homicide rate is 18.1. Canada, by the way, has a relatively high fire ownership rate (30.8) in international terms, yet has a low death by firearm rate (0.51). Chile has 10.7 weapons per 100 people yet a homicide by firearm rate of 2.16 per 100000. Colombia has only 5.9 weapons per 100 people yet the firearm homicide rate is 27.09. The Democratic Republic of the Congo has gun ownership rate that is a tiny 1.4 weapons per 100 people, yet the firearm homicide rate is 1.56. The first number is a tiny fraction of the US number yet the homicide rate by firearm is a difference of about 1 person per 100000 people. Costa Rica has a firearm homicide rate of 4.59, well above the US, but a gun ownership rate of 9.9 per 100, well below the US. Croatia and Cyprus have relatively high gun ownership rates (21.7 and 36.4 respectively) but relatively low firearm homicide rates: 0.39 and 0.46. Ecuador has an ownership rate of just 1.3 per 100, but the firearm homicide rate is more than four times higher than the United States; 12.73.In El Salvador the ownership rate is just 5.8, but the firearm homicide rate is 39.9. Finland and France both have relatively high gun ownership rates—45.3 and 31.2—by international standards and very low firearm homicide rates: 0.45 and 0.06. Ditto for Germany with 30.3 firearms per 100, and firearm homicide rates of 0.19 per 100,000.The same is true for Greece with 22.5 weapons per 100, but 0.26 per 100,000 in firearm homicides. Guatamala, on the other hand has a high homicide rate of 34.81 per 100,000 but a relatively low firearm ownership rate; just 13.1 per 100. Guyana is in the same boat with firearm ownership of just 14.6 per 100, but firearm homicides at 11.46 per 100,000. Hondurs may be the worst in disparity with 68.42 deaths by firearms per 100,000 people, but with only 6.2 firearms per 100 people.Iceland, where about 1/3rd of all people have a firearm (30.3) has a firearm homicide rate of 0. Jamaica has 8.1 weapons per 100 people, but a homicide rate of 39.4. New Zealand has a firearm ownership rate of 22.6 per 100, but the homicide rate is only 0.16. In contrast, Nicaragua has only 7.7 weapons per 100, yet the firearm homicide rate is 5.92. In Norway 31.3 weapons are in private hands per 100 people, yet the homicide rate by firearms is just 0.05 per 100,000. Panama has a firearm ownership rate well below the US, 21.7%, but a homicide rate well above the US; 16.18. In Serbia 37.8 of people have a firearm, but the homicide rate is 0.46.In Sierre Leone almost no one owns a firearm, 0.6%, yet the firearm homicide rate is similar to that in the US, 2.28. South Africa has only 12.7 guns per 100 people but 17.03 per 100,000 is the firearm homicide rate. Sweden and Switzerland have relatively high gun ownership rates; 31.6 and 45.7. They also have relatively low firearm homicide rates; 0.41 and 0.77. Trinidad, with just 1.5 guns per 100, should be paradise but it has 27.31 firearm homicides per 100,000.In Venezuela, that socialist paradise, guns are restricted to 10.7 per 100 people, but the firearm homicide rate is 28.97. And Zimbabwe, with a lower ownership rate of just 4.4 per 100 has a higher firearm homicide rate of 4.78. Now, these numbers come from the Guardian who got them from the UN. The survey is skewed against guns because it only looks at homicides by firearm instead of the total homicides from all causes. What we see is that some nations have very low rates of gun ownership yet have high rates of murder by firearm and other countries have relatively high rates of gun ownership yet very low rates of firearm related homicides. These numbers are so all over the place I don't think there is a statistical correlation. What this tells us is that the homicide rate by firearms is far more complex than simply whether or not people own guns.: [/quote]
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Brilliant. Too bad the gun control crowd won't watch.
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