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I used to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture until i watched this video
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[quote:Stoned Prophet:MV8yMDk1Mjc1XzM1MzAxNzA0XzREMTVGQUU3] [quote:Brian Moser:MV8yMDk1Mjc1XzM1MzAwNzY0X0EzRjMzQTA0] Excuse me for being the voice of reason and playing Devil's (no pun intended) Advocate here, but how accurate do you consider these prophecies to be? I mean, let's look at this from a skeptic's perspective. As part of the brain's development throughout one's lifetime, we not only learn through patterns\repetition but unintentionally look for coincidences and conclude connections that don't really exist. Perhaps the point-of-view is that it is not convincing to predict seven [i][b]very general[/b][/i] events to happen especially if they rely on a sequence that is constantly rationalized. To say that there will be a single being who is the "antichrist" is quite general. It is part of our nature for different civilizations to try and control one another. To expect a species to ultimately come to this system of ranking is quite common. Speaking metaphorically, there will always be the proverbial "alpha male" whether it refers to an individual or an entire nation. You have things that happen all the time - disease, war, famine, earthquakes, astrological anomalies etc. We'll come back to this in a minute. Now we reach the "fool-proof loophole" part of the prophecy, where not only are the believers convinced that the prophecy is true but that they must fundamentally defend it to nay-sayers. I could tell you right now that people will try to prove my logic to be wrong and it would make me no more divine than these predictions. The "seven trumpets" can be interpreted much more freely than the other signs. Again, we look for connections that aren't really there and this forces believers to find significance in the number 7. Claiming a book to have prophetic value based on these conditions is about the same as some AC making a topic and saying "California will experience an earthquake within the next week" and expecting to be credited as a psychic. All of those events have happened and continue to happen throughout history because they are characteristic of both human behavior and the environment. Scholars have been labeling different leaders as "the antichrist" since the 1st century. Earthquakes, famine, war and all those factors occur all the time, but the bottom line is that because the prophecies are written so generally, [b][i][color=red]people choose to decide which events fit appropriately to the sequence[/color][/i][/b]. I'm not here to turn you away from any belief, whether it is Christian, atheist or anything in between. I simply suggest that certain people need to stop expecting doom to be imminent so they can enjoy this life they were blessed with more appropriately. The cycle of being good to yourself so you can more fluently be good to others is a never-ending pattern that has led us to our species survival to date. [/quote] The 1st, and seals are non descriptive so there is no way of proving they have been broken. The 3rd seal is a "WORLDWIDE" famine (Not Ethiopia, bla bla) This is a strong sign BUT it cannot be FULLY proven too. The 4th seal is a world war where everyone dies in area that is about 25% of the landmass on Earth. This is a region, not 25% of the people, and this has never happened before in recorded history !! [b]The 4th seal is the DEFINITIVE([b][color=red]not general[/color][/b]) sign of the end times[/b], because the remaining Christians in the 75% of the Earth will know exactly where they are in the Book of Revelation. Until this event no one has been sure. Lots of hot air and BS, but no proof. The 4th seal will be the PROOF that the Lord is coming soon. Then the Holy Spirit will pour out the latter rain. Miracles will be common place. The whole world will know about Jesus. This will happen in the fifth seal. Then Satan will not be able to corrupt and pervert the NEW Christians. So he will have his servants start slaughtering them. This mass martyrdom will bring about the 6th seal which is the start of the day of the Lord. I agree with what you are saying in general because wars and famines are the norm. But the 4th seal is not the norm. It is the endtime trap for the "lukewarm" Western Christians. It will sneak up on them like a thief in the night and the Lord is going to spit them out of His mouth. After it is done every Christian left will know HE HAS SPOKEN and has JUDGED. This is why when the 6th seal is broken everyone knows He is coming and they will crawl into the caves and hide themselves. I am real prophet, and I have freely given this unpleasant information to you. I don't expect you to believe me, but never the less, my words will be fulfilled soon because the Lord is coming. He is coming SLOWLY in the EXACT order He said He would. [/quote]
They bust and break down the pre-tribulation rapture with the word of god! It is long but take the time to watch the video.
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