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"You positively will not die" Satan's theory of immortality deceived Eve and millions more. Why such gullibility?
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[quote:DGN:MV8yMDk3NDM3XzM1MzI1MjI1X0MwMDAxRDNC] [quote:Mr. D 4603964:MV8yMDk3NDM3XzM1MzI1MDE4Xzk2MThFNjJC] [quote:DGN:MV8yMDk3NDM3X0M2QkEwNTFG] "And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and took to eating from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18 And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” Ge3:13 [/quote] They believed Satan because they had not eaten the "fruit from the tree of knowledge yet". They did not "Know" it was wrong. They were just like children left alone without a babysitter. Then Satan comes along and well the rest is history. A huge issue I have with the story of Adam and Eve. God tells them they can eat the fruit from any tree except the fruit from the tree of knowledge. It's a catch 22. They couldn't have "known" it was wrong to disobey God because they hadn't eaten from the fruit yet that would have enabled them to "Know" it was wrong to disobey just like they didn't know it was wrong to listen to Satan. Mankind got a raw deal if you ask me. Caught in the crossfire between God and Satan. [/quote] Does obeying Jehovah require defying him? His instruction was understood; "Now the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 [b][i]At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die[/i][/b].’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die." Ge3:1 You're right however that mankind got a raw deal which is why Jesus provided the ransom solution to who ever participates; "That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. 13 For until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not charged against anyone when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses, even over those who had not sinned after the likeness of the transgression by Adam, who bears a resemblance to him that was to come." Ro5:12 [/quote]
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"And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and took to eating from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18 And thorns and thistles it will grow for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” Ge3:13
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