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Re: the Roman Church's position on Voices from the Dead (aka EVP) etc:

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his area of research became known as “Electronic Voice Phenomena” or EVP for short. [i][b]Many famous people considered pioneers in their fields such as Marconi, Edison, Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir William Crookes and John Logie Baird were all totally convinced of the reality of Spirit communication by EVP and were using their professional skills and reputations to prove it. Even the Christian churches were open-Minded to EVP including Catholics, Protestants and Fundamentalists.[/b][/i]

[i][b]The Catholic church has even actively encouraged research directed towards Electronic Voice Phenomena. Two of the earliest religious investigators were Father Ernetti and Father Gemelli who stumbled upon the Electronic Voice Phenomena while recording Gregorian chants in 1952. Father Gemelli apparently heard the voice of his own deceased father on the tape saying, “Zucchini, it is clear, don’t you know it is I”. “Zucchini” was the childhood name of Father Gemelli. Pope Pius, the cousin of the Rev. Professor Dr Gebhard Frei was co-founder of the Jung Institute and was an internationally recognised and respected parapsychologist who worked very closely with Dr Konstantin Raudive, a pioneer of EVP working in Germany. Rev Frei stated: “all that I have read and heard forces me to believe that the voices come from transcendental, individual entities. Whether it suits me or not, I have no right to doubt the reality of the voices”-- Rev. Professor Dr Gebhard Frei.
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[i][b]Rev. Professor Dr Gebhard Frei died October 27 1967. In November 1967 at numerous EVP tape recording sessions a voice claiming to be Gebhard Frei was recorded. The voice was positively confirmed and identified by Professor Peter Hohenwarter of the University of Vienna as unquestionably the voice belonging to Dr Frei.[/b][/i]
 
[i][b]The Catholic religion became increasingly supportive of EVP research with several Vatican approved researchers producing compelling evidence for EVP. Father Leo Schmid, a Swiss theologist, collected more than ten thousand recorded voices in his book “When the Dead Speak” in 1976, published shortly after his death.[/b][/i]
 
[i][b]In England, in 1972, four senior members of the Catholic church became involved in the famous Pye Recording Studio tests conducted by Peter Bander. Father Pistone, Superior of the Society of St. Paul in England, said after the tests:
 
“I do not see anything against the teaching of the Catholic church in the voices, they are something extra-ordinary, but there is no reason to fear them, nor can I see any danger”. --Father Pistone.[/b][/i]
 
[i][b]A series of high and respected officials of the Catholic church subsequently lent support to EVP in what has now become a firm Vatican position of acceptance for these “voices from beyond”. The following definitive statement was issued by Father Gino Concetti at the Vatican:
 
“According to the modern catechism, God allows our dear departed persons who live in an ultra-terrestrial dimension, to send messages to guide us in certain difficult moments of our lives. The Church has decided not to forbid any more the dialogue with the deceased with the condition that these contacts are carried out with a serious religious and scientific purpose”
 
 Printed in the Vatican newspaper Osservatore Romano and cited in Sarah Estep's American Association Electronic Voice Phenomena, Inc Newsletter, Vol 16 No, 2 1997.
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[i]The “ultra-terrestrial dimension” to which Father Concetti refers is of course the Astral worlds, again often known as the “beyond” or the “afterlife”. The church itself does not as yet appear to officially support the reality of the true multi-dimensional nature of the Universe, or indeed the reality of the true purpose and destiny of mankind, it is however most positive that indeed it does at least officially support the reality of the continuity of life in an inner dimension after death of the physical body.[/i] End Quote

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Original Message NDEs or Near Death Experiences usually DENY the work of Christ and push salvation by works or other occult beliefs. NDEs are ways for Satan to deceive others and lead them away from the Real TRUTH!

IF you think that NDEs are real and from God then PLEASE read these verses from the WORD OF GOD...

DOES GOD RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD TODAY AS A SIGN BESIDES THAT OF CHRIST?
"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation." -- (Matthew 12:38-45 KJV)

WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER?
"And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." -- (John 6:40 KJV)

ANYONE WHO TEACHES THAT YOU MUST AVOID SIN IN ORDER TO BE SAVED SPEAKS A LIE FROM SATAN! BECAUSE ONLY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST CAN SAVE YOU BECAUSE ONLY HE CAN!

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