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So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
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[quote:Ashton's Succulent Volvo 12374452:MV8yMTA0NzE4XzM1NDc5MjQzXzk0OTQ2NzIy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31629472:MV8yMTA0NzE4XzM1NDc3NDE1X0U0RDIzREQz] [quote:Albanian 12582427:MV8yMTA0NzE4XzM1NDc2Nzg2XzE2RTMwRTFD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31629472:MV8yMTA0NzE4XzM1NDc0MDI2XzQzNEEzODk4] you guys think that globalfirepower is so credible but your wrong.. the ranking just counts numbers it doesnt count the skill and experience of the armies and the currect commanders and technologis. 1)turkeys army atm has no skilled command. erdogan jailed his skilled command when he took over the country. 2)turkey gets some of its weapons from israel so its safe to say that israel hes more advanced weapons then turkey(Espacilly air based). when it comes to cyprus they wont be able to take it since israel will most likely defeat their airforce and navy. just look at the amount of experience israel has with its air force and the turkish airforce experience and the actual numbers of advanced jet fighters and not aircrafts or jetfighters in general. when it comes to greece i think israel will be able to only support it via arms and mybe some air cover but greece will have to fight turkey and in a conflict like that with the turkish navy and airforce stuck fighting israel i think the turks will have hard time. the other thing that could happen is egypt joining in to help their muslim brotherhood friends in the turkish govermant wich will cuase a hard mayjor war that i cant predict who wins but i know that israel will not get invaded becuase if it does then both turkey and egypt will become nuclear wastelands so its most likely going to be egypts navy and airforce fighting with the turks against israel over cyprus. anyway thats what i think as an objective man(atlast i try to be) with experience as a officer in the israeli army but on a final note i'd like to state that no one can know how any war will end becuase wars are determined by what happens in the field and not by numbers and analysis on paper. Lets just hope that war wont break [/quote] You and I both know that history repeats itself. Back in the day, the ottoman empire controlled a good chunk of the world. The ottomans were almost all turkish, and as an albanian, i can say that they couldnt do any of that without superior albanian command (i.e. Ali Pasha the albanian who controlled the middle east). My point is that the turks have always been ruthless, never a peoples to fuck with, because the majority of people who fuck with them will eventually lose. Look at them today, 6th biggest standing army, advanced technology, an army that even israel cant do jack shit to, and thats just a fact, not merely my opinion.. So if shit is to hit the fan with turkey, the world will see.. [/quote] look when it comes to a ground war i admit the turks would win israel but on a air fight israel will crush the turks. now the most likely war will be held in cyprus since the turks cant invade israel from the sea(israel has great sea defence and with air cover their navy would be in the bottom of the sea) or from syria(civil war) so if war happens now its air war with naval support and israel wins. and regarding the turks technology israel is much more advanched , we sold them alot of their weapons and we upgraded their us made jets so we can safely assume that israel has better weapons then it sold to the turks. if you want to see how good the israeli air force is just check the first lebanon war(82) when we crushed the syrian airforce and air defence without even 1 jet lost while they outnumbered out jets and in 67 73 we also crushed egyptian airforce and syrian and jordanian ones. we are the bigest exporter of drones worldwide and we upgrate jets for alot of countries and we got turky in our balistic range. Anyway i dont think a war with turkey and israel will produce any real winners since both sides will suffer tens of thousands of deaths. [/quote] Turkey fighting Israel? Why are we being mega-tards again? Yeah, the Islamic clowns like Erdogan-Davotoglu-Gul are acting up and writing checks they can never cash, what's new? That's been the case for last 10 years. Turkey used to be pretty secular and moderate, and I don't believe Erdogan monkeys can ruin the Ataturk/NATO influences in just a few short years. Considering that their "zero neighbors" policy is a joke, and Turkey's much-acclaimed economy is only as good as decades of Western ideas, ideals, assistnce, credit-backing, trade... well for all the phony bullish sychophant reports, truth is, it's becoming a giant credit bubble only held up by Saudis, Qatari massive influsions.... Either way, about the LAST thing Turkey can afford is any war, let alone against Israel --- with most of its prominent talented military commanders either retired or jailed, no less! As for Turkey overruning Israel in a hypothetical scenario of that Albanian bozo? African-American puh-lease. Before it gets anywhere close to that point, Israel would EMP & neutron-bomb the fuck out of Turkish or Egyptian or Iranian for that matter. International community that always forces Israel to fight blind-folded & with both arms tied behind its back, would no longer be applicable in an all-out war scenario. LOL, it would be turkey shoot of 1982 Bekaa Valley proportions, indeed. As for this "dispute", there really ISN'T a dispute. Israel-Russia-Cyprus-Greece-US companies are well within their rights to expore for gas. Turkey's extremely illegal occupation of Cyprus, is simply NOT a relevant party here. Even they know it, but you know Islamists they can't keep themselves from thrownig a tantrum about every little thing. My advice to Sultan Erdogan is get better cancer-treatment than Hugo Chavez and mind your former BFF Bashar al-Assad next door --> Israel is not in your jurisdiction or business, K? [/quote]
Greek govt government seems to have decided to submit coordinates for the outer limits of the Greek continental shelf to the United Nations in the first months of 2013. On June 9th 1995, the Turkish parliament officially declared that unilateral action by Greece would constitute a casus belli.
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Davutoglu Warns Greece Against Oil exploration In The Aegean
link to www.trtarabic.com
Turkey closely following any Greek maneuver in Aegean disputes
link to www.todayszaman.com
16 islands snatched by Greece due to Turkey's negligence, experts claim. In the Aegean and the Mediterranean, there are 152 islands and islets of which the ownership is controversial
link to www.todayszaman.com
Norwegian company PGS is already conducting offshore seismic tests in Greek seas. License round is expected to take place in 2014.
link to www.pgs.com
More about the Aegean dispute
link to en.wikipedia.org
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