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Abortion is murder. Period.
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[quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTE2NjI3XzM1NjkyNTU3X0E0NEIzOTRB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 30307430:MV8yMTE2NjI3XzM1NjkyNDgzXzE3NEFFOTI5] [quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTE2NjI3XzM1NjkyNDQxXzU1RjFDNzA5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 30307430:MV8yMTE2NjI3XzM1NjkyMzg4Xzg1RDcyNjI0] [quote:Anonymous Coward 30307430:MV8yMTE2NjI3XzM1NjkyMzI4XzdGMzhDRUFF] It's not candy coating. It winning the most souls because of the Great Commission. If we yell at people, very few will be saved. Even the saved ones will likely backslide. That's not a great way to bring people to Christ. [/quote] No one is yelling. Watch the video above of the woman who survived an abortion. She herself refers to the procedure as murder. What term do you think Jesus would apply to it? He made many people uncomfortable too. [/quote] Come unto me all who are heavy laden and I will refresh you. Matthew 11:28 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. Galatians 6:2 They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. Matthew 23:4 We're all sinners. If we desire to bring people to Jesus, then we try to help them process it, and decide to ask for forgiveness. If we shove it in their face, then they recoil and are less likely to listen, much less recognize sin, and even more remotely ask for forgiveness. The material is good. The delivery with that awful title is bad. There's nothing wrong with the material. I would urge you to pray for the Holy Spirit to intercede for you and help you use the best presentation. That was my only criticism. [/quote] Thank you for your heartfelt concern. However, sometimes it is simply necessary to call things what they are. You never did respond to my question about which term you believe Jesus might use to refer to the procedure. In your opinion, what sin is being committed? [/quote] All I know is that it's wrong. Anyone who studies medicine knows a fetus is human from conception. As such, the deliberate killing of a human. Murder is about intentions. So if you want to be legalistic, then an abortion could be murder depending upon the intention of the person doing it. Since permission must be given, then the person who agreed to do it is also guity of that crime. In the Ten Commandments it literally says Thou shall not murder. Soldiers were common in Israel. I wrote a long Christian apologetics on Self-Defense the other day. They killed not murder. With abortion it's murky but the intention seems to be murder in my eyes. I won't condemn someone. I think it's a heinous process, cruel beyond belief in every method. It's essential an abrogation of responsibility. Good birth control could eliminate almost all of of it. Good birth control can medically be taught. See my sig for that information especially birth control if the SHTF. If I'm a doctor, and I allow someone to die by withdrawing life support, did I commit murder? It's a sticky widget. In the Old Testament, there's multiple verses with place no value on babies of less than a month's life. If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. Exodus 21:22-23 The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. Leviticus 27:6 You see how sticky the issue is? If I'm a doctor and I prescribe the morning after pill, did I commit murder and the mom who took it too? It's complex. The point is to change hearts and bring people to Christ and to present it well such that they will listen. [/quote]
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